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MLB reportedly disciplined umpire Pat Hoberg for violating baseball's gambling policies, also known as Rule 21. Hoberg, with the support of the umpires' union is appealing. Both MLBUA and Hoberg did not comment on the allegations other to acknowledge their, and the appeal's, existence.

Hoberg, who has officiated as part of the major league staff since 2017, said in a statement, "I am appealing Major League Baseball’s determination that I should be disciplined for violating the sports betting policies. While that appeal is pending, it would not be appropriate to discuss the case. That said, I have devoted my adult life to the profession of umpiring, and the integrity of baseball is of the utmost importance to me. I look forward to the appeal process, and I am grateful that the Major League Baseball Umpires Association is supporting me in the appeal."

The Major League Baseball Umpires Association wrote: "The Major League Baseball Umpires Association was made aware in Spring Training that Umpire Pat Hoberg was being investigated for potential violation of Major League Baseball’s sports betting policies. We have been working with Pat since then. We are now appealing the discipline issued by Major League Baseball. Because the appeal process is ongoing, the Union cannot discuss the matter. We will have no further comment until the appeal process is complete."

MLB stated that the investigation "did not find any evidence that games worked by Mr. Hoberg were compromised or manipulated in any way, MLB determined that discipline was warranted."

Rule 21 states that a person who bets on games in which they have a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible while a person who bets on games in which they do not have a duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year. There also exists the possibility that Hoberg's appeal will be successful and no further penalty will result.

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Jimurray
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Times is a rag. Paywall that many of us won’t pay. 

flyingron
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Here's a legal, free link to the article.   A gift from my subscription. https://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/09/sports/baseball-zimmer-and-umpires-say-an-old-debt-has-been-paid.html?unlocked_article_

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I bang the drum unabashedly for Hoberg. He is a fantastic umpire. I'm not entirely familiar with MLB's collective bargaining when it comes to punishment for an umpire who has placed wagers. Presumably we'll get a responsible, thorough investigation of the facts and if so, whatever rules and associated punishments should be applied. Currently, the public knows very little. I think we can all agree that any umpire betting on games they worked is not the same as any umpire betting on baseball is not the same as any umpire betting on college field hockey and my hope is the MLB's rules and punishments are structured with that in mind.

One question I have...and I hope this is eventually revealed to the public regardless of the findings of the league, how do these kinds of stories come to light? Are sports books given a list of all active NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL and NCAA officials and then are they required to report any wagers made by anyone with those names back to the league? Obviously, as Lindsay states in her video...anyone could call up MLB's offices and say they have reason to believe this person or that person has placed wagers and the league is going to look into it. Can anyone explain how else these situations are reported? We know in the Ohtani case it was the sports book that revealed Ohtani/Ippei Mizuhara.

~Dawg

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32 minutes ago, SeeingEyeDog said:

I bang the drum unabashedly for Hoberg. He is a fantastic umpire. I'm not entirely familiar with MLB's collective bargaining when it comes to punishment for an umpire who has placed wagers. Presumably we'll get a responsible, thorough investigation of the facts and if so, whatever rules and associated punishments should be applied. Currently, the public knows very little. I think we can all agree that any umpire betting on games they worked is not the same as any umpire betting on baseball is not the same as any umpire betting on college field hockey and my hope is the MLB's rules and punishments are structured with that in mind.

One question I have...and I hope this is eventually revealed to the public regardless of the findings of the league, how do these kinds of stories come to light? Are sports books given a list of all active NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL and NCAA officials and then are they required to report any wagers made by anyone with those names back to thhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-gambling-touched-baseball-umps/e league? Obviously, as Lindsay states in her video...anyone could call up MLB's offices and say they have reason to believe this person or that person has placed wagers and the league is going to look into it. Can anyone explain how else these situations are reported? We know in the Ohtani case it was the sports book that revealed Ohtani/Ippei Mizuhara.

~Dawg

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/09/sports/baseball-zimmer-and-umpires-say-an-old-debt-has-been-paid.html

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-gambling-touched-baseball-umps/

 

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3 hours ago, Jimurray said:

Times is a rag. Paywall that many of us won’t pay. 

far as i know i am not paying either and i will not, so, just in case it would try and charge others, i have the cbs news one.

but now in case no one knew about the past, there were hopefully enough words in the title to google to find the zimmer, garcia, pulli situation from the past, without a paywall situation from other sources, and no i cannot read everyones mind for what are acceptable and non acceptable sources. and if i did i miss that post or topic i am truly sorry.

i am not trying to pawn off any group of sources on anyone. personally i do not know who is or is not paywall or whatever that is. i am dumb, but i just find anything i do not pay for or sign up for. cant afford it anyway, dumbness prevents it.

dumbdumb

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and here is what happened to mantle and mays in the best interests of baseball and gambling by Kuhn, until lifted by Ubie. who is Ubie, see second article.

https://wikisummaries.org/baseball-commissioner-suspends-mickey-mantle-and-willie-mays-for-casino-ties/#:~:text=Motivated by a desire to distance Major League,clubs and gambling casinos at the same time.

who is Ubie (per writer Dick Young)

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/peter-ueberroth/

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