Pitch Count Rules--I know...I know...

[johnnyg08]

Okay...hang with me...I know that as umpires we don't have anything to do with the pitch count rules. I know it and I don't dispute it. 

However...I got a question about it a while back and wanted to bring it here to discuss the possible rebuttals to his argument. 

Assume that F1 was removed in the 6th inning of a 2-2 game for hitting his pitch count max. 

Ten minutes later, the sky opens up and rain makes the field unplayable and the game is suspended until TBD. 

Two weeks pass, the game is resumed, & the starting F1 has no current pitch count restrictions going into the resumed game that takes place...just for fun, this afternoon. (That's not true, but just go with it) 

The F1 who was removed due to pitch count in the original game remained in the game at F6. 

Based on pitch count rules/guidelines, F1 could hypothetically go for another 105 pitches in this resumed game. 

Coach felt as though it's an unfair advantage since the resumed game should be resumed as a "clone" from the date of suspension. 

I gave him a couple of reasons why I disagreed with him...but understood where he was coming from...what are some of your reasons? 

I'm only asking to promote a baseball discussion. Thanks! 

 

 

[BLWizzRanger]

Assuming NFHS.  I think they can...

Hear me out.  If he has 'eligibility' due to the reinstatement of the number of pitches he has - something we don't adjudicate - why couldn't he?

We know by rule that a pitcher can be reentered to pitch at any time unless they are violating the 'reentered once per inning rule'.  Also, a starter can be reentered once as well. The only thing that is holding them out is something out of our authority.

Interesting loop hole though...

[noumpere]

Isn't it going to depend on the state's specific rules?

[Velho]

This is not professional baseball so we have pitch counts. They are for player safety not competitive balance.

Add: Wah coach. Wah. If you have the D1 commit you'd be arguing the other side.

[The Man in Blue]

Pro: A previously injured or academically ineligible player is now able to play.

Con: The game is resumed under the same conditions (e.g., count on the batter, runners on base) so why should the pitch count reset.

 

Doing what we do best:

Game is going late into the night.  Pitcher reaches his pitch count around 11:30PM.  At midnight, you are still playing extra innings.  According to the league/association/tournament rules, at midnight the new week starts.  Can he go back in for a fresh set?

[Tborze]

13 hours ago, The Man in Blue said:

Pro: An previously injured or academically ineligible player is now able to play.

Con: The game is resumed under the same conditions (e.g., count on the batter, runners on base) so why should the pitch count reset.

 

Doing what we do best:

Game is going late into the night.  Pitcher reaches his pitch count around 11:30PM.  At midnight, you are still playing extra innings.  According to the league/association/tournament rules, at midnight the new week starts.  Can he go back in for a fresh set?

I’m not gonna stop him! 
 

[BLWizzRanger]

I actually just had something simular. I dont know why I didnt think of this sooner.

Playoff game on Saturday was suspended at the top of the fifth. Two days later, the game resumed with both teams aces, whom werent able to pitch on Saturday due to pitch count and days rest, became eligible and were on the mound on Monday.

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