MLB Ejection 170 - Adrian Johnson (3; Marcus Thames)

[Lindsay]

HP Umpire Adrian Johnson ejected Angels hitting coach Marcus Thames (strike two call to Angels batter Hunter Renfroe; QOCY) in the bottom of the 2nd inning of the #Mariners-#Angels game. With one out and one on, Angels batter Renfroe took a 2-1 sinker from Mariners pitcher Luis Castillo for a called second strike. Replays indicate the pitch was located over the inner half of home plate and at of the hollow of the knee (px -0.33, pz 1.49 [sz_bot 1.66 / RAD 1.54 / MOE 1.46]), the call was correct.* At the time of the ejection, the Mariners were leading, 5-1. The Mariners ultimately won the contest, 9-7.

This is Adrian Johnson (80)'s 3rd ejection of 2023.

*This pitch was located 0.36 vertical inches from being deemed incorrect.

This is the 170th ejection report of the 2023 MLB regular season.

This is the 22nd coach ejection of 2023. Ejection Tally: 78 Managers, 70 Players, 22 Coaches.

This is Los Angeles' 7th ejection of 2023, T-1st in the AL West (LAA, OAK, SEA, TEX 7; HOU 4).

This is Marcus' Thames' 1st ejection since May 14, 2022 (Bill Welke; QOC = N [Check Swing]).

This is Adrian Johnson's 3rd ejection of 2023, 1st since May 3 (Derek Shelton; QOC = U [Pitch Clock]).

Wrap: Seattle Mariners vs Los Angeles Angels, 8/4/23 | Video as follows:

Alternate Link: Johnson ejects Thames from dugout over strike two call early in Anaheim

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[The Man in Blue]

... and another "Mechanics Moment" brought to you by ... what?  We don't have a sponsor for this segment?  Not even some local crackpot chiropractor or two-bit tire shop?  Ahh, to heck with it ... [/eucker]

 

Please, please, please ... when you are a base umpire, do NOT answer a call for help from a catcher.  ONLY answer that call from your plate umpire. 

Plate umpires, if you are going to ask for help, do it the right way.  Step out from behind the plate, take your mask off, and loudly give me a "TMIB!  Did he go?!"  I will gladly give you a hammer and "YES he DID!" or a sweeping grand gesture and a "NO he DID NOT!"

Meekly pointing at me while you are hiding behind the catcher is NOT asking for help on a check swing.  Yes, I had a guy do this to me a few weeks ago.  In the post-game he brought it up and said I was busy looking at my CLICKER (using it because he hates that term) and didn't help him.  I know I wasn't looking at my CLICKER ... I NEVER look at my clicker ... 

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[Jimurray]

38 minutes ago, The Man in Blue said:

... and another "Mechanics Moment" brought to you by ... what?  We don't have a sponsor for this segment?  Not even some local crackpot chiropractor or two-bit tire shop?  Ahh, to heck with it ... [/eucker]

 

Please, please, please ... when you are a base umpire, do NOT answer a call for help from a catcher.  ONLY answer that call from your plate umpire. 

Plate umpires, if you are going to ask for help, do it the right way.  Step out from behind the plate, take your mask off, and loudly give me a "TMIB!  Did he go?!"  I will gladly give you a hammer and "YES he DID!" or a sweeping grand gesture and a "NO he DID NOT!"

While I like the ghist of your post I have to disagree in some respects.  A left arm point should suffice. You do not have to take the mask off or come out from behind the plate, unless maybe you have to with your cohorts. Joe West would ask with his right hand openly bekoning to the side he needed for a call. His crew knew the drill. But another MLB umpire signaled “No” when his plate just signaled a strike. Know your crew and brief. 

[SeeingEyeDog]

8 hours ago, The Man in Blue said:

... and another "Mechanics Moment" brought to you by ... what?  We don't have a sponsor for this segment?  Not even some local crackpot chiropractor or two-bit tire shop?  Ahh, to heck with it ... [/eucker]

 

Please, please, please ... when you are a base umpire, do NOT answer a call for help from a catcher.  ONLY answer that call from your plate umpire. 

Plate umpires, if you are going to ask for help, do it the right way.  Step out from behind the plate, take your mask off, and loudly give me a "TMIB!  Did he go?!"  I will gladly give you a hammer and "YES he DID!" or a sweeping grand gesture and a "NO he DID NOT!"

Meekly pointing at me while you are hiding behind the catcher is NOT asking for help on a check swing.  Yes, I had a guy do this to me a few weeks ago.  In the post-game he brought it up and said I was busy looking at my CLICKER (using it because he hates that term) and didn't help him.  I know I wasn't looking at my CLICKER ... I NEVER look at my clicker ... 

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Isn't this ruleset dependent? Perhaps @Senor Azul The Eternal Clarifier can provide some citations? It's my understanding that in FED, by rule the check swing appeal MUST be made directly to the plate umpire who then can decide to go to a partner or not. In NCAA and OBR, the appeal can be made by a player or coach directly to the wing umpire. Do I have this correct?

~Dawg

[dumbdumb]

believe on page 100 of mlb rule book on mlb dot com site.

The manager or the catcher may request the "plate umpire" to ask his partner for help on a half swing when the plate umpire calls the pitch a ball, but not when the pitch is called a strike.

The manager may not complain that the umpire made an improper call, but only that he did not ask his partner for help.

Appeals on a half swing may be made only on the call of ball, and when asked to appeal, the "home plate umpire must" refer to
a base umpire for his judgment on the half swing.

 

however, there is one instance--- if it is still a rule when the base umpire can make a call immediately before being asked per a situation found on the baseball rules academy site.

 

i am sure Sr. Azul and others will have the latest updates and more info than this, including if the below, voluntary strike situation still exists.

“VOLUNTARY STRIKE”

Rule 8.02(c) Comment:

In the situation where the third strike eludes the catcher on a half-swing and the batter-runner is entitled to run to first base, the appeal should be made to the base umpire instantly (without waiting for a request from the defense); but even if the appeal is not instant, the appropriate base umpire should immediately and voluntarily make a call of strike IF the base umpire is going to reverse the plate umpire’s call. This will give the batter the immediate opportunity to run.

 

 

 

[BigBlue4u]

On 8/4/2023 at 11:45 PM, Lindsay said:

HP Umpire Adrian Johnson ejected Angels hitting coach Marcus Thames (strike two call to Angels batter Hunter Renfroe; QOCY) in the bottom of the 2nd inning of the #Mariners-#Angels game

Getting ejected in the second inning on a questionable pitch is about as dumb as it gets!!!

[Senor Azul]

For FED the appeal of the call of "ball" on a check swing is not automatic:  the UIC (plate umpire) may ask for help if he wishes. FED rule 10-1-4a uses the word "may" instead of "shall" when it tells us what happens when a coach or captain asks the plate umpire to get help. Funny thing, though, FED case plays 10.2.3 situations H and I have the catcher asking the plate umpire to get help.

The NCAA rule 3-6f tells us the request can be made by a player or coach to the plate umpire and he must ask for help.

So all codes tell us the appeal is made to the plate umpire. The difference is that the NCAA and the OBR require the plate umpire to ask for help on the checked swing and the FED gives the plate umpire an option. And all codes basically agree that a player or coach (manager) can ask the plate umpire to get help.

[The Man in Blue]

On 8/5/2023 at 11:22 PM, Jimurray said:

While I like the ghist of your post I have to disagree in some respects.  A left arm point should suffice. You do not have to take the mask off or come out from behind the plate, unless maybe you have to with your cohorts. Joe West would ask with his right hand openly bekoning to the side he needed for a call. His crew knew the drill. But another MLB umpire signaled “No” when his plate just signaled a strike. Know your crew and brief. 

 

"Should suffice" is my sticking point.  When you cannot be seen behind the catcher and the batter, you need to move your butt.  If your partner is not reacting to what you are doing, you are doing it wrong.  Just do it right in the first place.