Youth Basketball Coach Fired After Grabbing Ref's Neck During Game

[Velho]

"another ref came in and appeared to punch the coach to get him to let go"

yikes...

 

https://www.tmz.com/2022/02/02/youth-basketball-coach-fired-grab-referee-neck-game/

Youth Basketball Coach Fired After Grabbing Ref's Neck During Game

2/2/2022 12:20 AM PT

A youth basketball coach who was overseeing a team full of kids 10 years old and younger was fired over the weekend after he grabbed a ref's neck during a game.

The wild scene all went down Saturday at the Sports Academy in Thousand Oaks, Calif., when the coach of the Cavs Youth Basketball's 10U team appeared to snap on a ref following a controversial call.

The founder of the Cavs' org., Darryl McDonald, tells TMZ Sports his coach was hit with two technical fouls ... and then a verbal altercation ensued.

McDonald, who was not at the venue at the time of the incident but says he launched a thorough investigation into it all, tells us after a back-and-forth between the coach and the refs ... his coach put his hands around the ref's neck.

Video from the scene shows the man was locked on the ref for several seconds ...  before another ref came in and appeared to punch the coach to get him to let go.

McDonald says the fight was broken up just moments later.

McDonald tells us he immediately suspended the head coach, and after a probe into the incident, he ultimately fired the guy on Sunday.

"It was unfortunate," McDonald said. "Our program has been around for over 30 years and before it even went viral, the coach was no longer part of our program. It's completely unacceptable to behave that way in front of our youth. There's no excuse, I don't care what someone says to you. You have to find a better way to handle that particular situation."

McDonald says it does not appear that anyone was seriously injured in the incident. He did not know if criminal charges were being pursued.

We've reached out to the coach for comment, but so far, no word back yet.

[dumbdumb]

dont leave out the good stuff.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10469139/California-youth-basketball-coach-captured-grabbing-referee-neck.html

web page. not one word about sportsmanship and respect for officials.

you mean to tell me in this bragged about competitive environment (constant full court press all game), there is not constant ragging on officials without the director there for every game in today's environment about poor coaches and fan deportment as it progressively gets worse. these coaches are not constantly getting technical fouls or officials will not give them because they get scratched to the assignor by the organization.

this is not something that just flared up at this moment in my opinion only, although the severity of the incident may hopefully be abnormal. a director that brags about his organization should be onsite at all times, or other high level of persons on the board, to report all the time on unsportsmanlike behavior. a win at all cost attitude, (rather than having a sportsmanship first environment and respect for the game should always come first), should  not happen. a bad call by an official does not mean the official is disrespecting the game, player, coach or organization. it is just proving the official is human. coaches are not teaching what truly needs to be taught in a competitive environment if this situation and deportment even """"gets close""""" to happening. what, 1 bad call or 10 or 20,  and the kid is not going to the NBA,NFL,MLB,etc, or the coach for that matter. the scouts know what they want to see in all sports when they are out scouting.

as a matter of fact, a lot of collegiate coaches are watching the parents deportment at a game. who wants a kid who brings parent sportsmanship baggage to make the school look bad. Collegiate coaches do not have time for the headache of babysitting parents.

And who was the coach. not seeing that name of somebody choking somebody else. inquiring minds want to know. is this another pillar of the community situation? guess the pillar was on vacation, no.

https://www.cavsyouthbasketball.com/about-us

 

 

[Mudisfun]

According to the local news broadcast, the Sherriff's dept, when they arrived found that the suspect and victim had left. The crime would be a misdemeanor battery which requires the victim to press charges. Hope he does. 

[ousafe]

Here's another very sad/disturbing incident in my area that I learned of recently. The referee involved is a long time, heavily involved baseball umpire as well, who I've met through our association's training program. Great guy. Thankfully his recovery is on track.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/father-faces-assault-charge-for-allegedly-injuring-ref-during-kenmore-basketball-game/281-5345d143-ba61-47a3-998f-58b01a2dab9e

[aaluck]

On 2/3/2022 at 1:16 PM, ousafe said:

The referee involved is a long time, heavily involved baseball umpire as well, who I've met through our association's training program

That's horrible.  You can see this guy has a serious problem. He's running in full force with the sole intent of knocking this ref on the floor.  Please keep us updated on what happens to him.

[flyingron]

Crimes do not require anybody to "press charges."   A crime is an offense against society and the state is the one who prosecutes it.    Of course, absent the people involved, there might not be sufficient evidence to carry the case forward.

[mac266]

My retired cop says this:  If anyone has their hands around another person's throat, it takes approximately six seconds to kill them.  DEADLY FORCE is justified to prevent this from happening.  In most states, including where I live, if deadly force is justified, it is also justified in defense of another.

In other words, the ref who punched the assailant was perfectly ok in doing so.  This was a life-or-death situation and he should be given a heroism medal. 

I hope the ex-coach was also criminally prosecuted.

[Replacematt]

2 hours ago, mac266 said:

My retired cop says this:  If anyone has their hands around another person's throat, it takes approximately six seconds to kill them.  DEADLY FORCE is justified to prevent this from happening.  In most states, including where I live, if deadly force is justified, it is also justified in defense of another.

In other words, the ref who punched the assailant was perfectly ok in doing so.  This was a life-or-death situation and he should be given a heroism medal. 

I hope the ex-coach was also criminally prosecuted.

He's wrong in how long it takes to kill someone. A blood choke would cause unconsciousness in around ten seconds, but it still takes a few minutes to kill. An air choke takes far longer. 

While deadly force CAN be justified, it is only justified if there was not a less-lethal option reasonably available.

[mac266]

21 minutes ago, Matt said:

He's wrong in how long it takes to kill someone. A blood choke would cause unconsciousness in around ten seconds, but it still takes a few minutes to kill. An air choke takes far longer. 

While deadly force CAN be justified, it is only justified if there was not a less-lethal option reasonably available.

Since referees aren't carrying tasers and pepper spray, I'm going to say he's fine.  And I'm not a physician; I'm repeating what I was told in training.  We had a fellow officer walk in on a domestic where the male was on top of the female strangling her.  The cop decided not to blow his head off, and cracked his skull instead.  Rule justified by the court after the chickenSH*# brass tried to hang him on it.  The brass even said shooting him would have been fine; they just didn't think it "looked good" to crack his skull.

[Replacematt]

1 minute ago, mac266 said:

Since referees aren't carrying tasers and pepper spray, I'm going to say he's fine.  And I'm not a physician; I'm repeating what I was told in training.  We had a fellow officer walk in on a domestic where the male was on top of the female strangling her.  The cop decided not to blow his head off, and cracked his skull instead.  Rule justified by the court after the chickenSH*# brass tried to hang him on it.  The brass even said shooting him would have been fine; they just didn't think it "looked good" to crack his skull.

I had to understand these concepts inside and out, both in practice and to teach. 

And I really don't care about anecdotes, since they're usually inaccurate and not probative.