Ejection and no substitutes

[Guest Gary]

Game played under fed rules. In the bottom of the last inning, the home team is down by two runs. With two outs we have runners on first and second. Batter hits a home run which should win the game. However, immediately after hitting the homer, the batter does a huge bat flip and the bat lands almost out at the pitching mound. Umpire had issued a warning for a carelessly thrown bat earlier in the game so he ejected the kid this time. There were no eligible subs to run the bases for the batter so is the batter out and the other two runs score? Or can the most recent batter not on base run for the batter in this situation?

[ofhs93]

13 hours ago, noumpere said:

Add me to the list of those who are ejecting and writing the reports.  In most leagues, there will be a "post game ejection" penalty

Exactly...I hope that bat flip was worth missing the NEXT game...because that's what it's going to cost him.

[ElkOil]

20 hours ago, umpstu said:

Exactly what I'm saying.  All it's doing is creating an unneeded sh** storm.  And one heck of a bat flip to wind up by the pitcher's mound?

It's a common misunderstanding of many umpires to believe that by upholding the rules and correctly managing a game, they are creating sh**storms. But such cannot be further from the truth. The player who flipped the bat is the problem and by not doing the proper thing, the umpire would be compounding that problem. Handling this situation correctly is why you are paid to be on that field. Doing anything but is shirking your duties.

There will be strong reactions by players, coaches and fans to you properly executing your duties. These require your fortitude and unfaltering dedication to your job and craft as an umpire. These will test your resolve and perhaps have you questioning your desire to continue as an umpire. These may have you second guessing yourself. These situations are unsavory, to be sure, but they are a time-honored part of the game. Umpires have been doing it since baseball was invented. People won't be happy with you, but your integrity demands you do the right thing, regardless of how difficult it is, particularly when it's in response to a safety issue like a thrown bat.

[BrianC14]

1 hour ago, ElkOil said:

It's a common misunderstanding of many umpires to believe that by upholding the rules and correctly managing a game, they are creating sh**storms. But such cannot be further from the truth. The player who flipped the bat is the problem and by not doing the proper thing, the umpire would be compounding that problem. Handling this situation correctly is why you are paid to be on that field. Doing anything but is shirking your duties.

There will be strong reactions by players, coaches and fans to you properly executing your duties. These require your fortitude and unfaltering dedication to your job and craft as an umpire. These will test your resolve and perhaps have you questioning your desire to continue as an umpire. These may have you second guessing yourself. These situations are unsavory, to be sure, but they are a time-honored part of the game. Umpires have been doing it since baseball was invented. People won't be happy with you, but your integrity demands you do the right thing, regardless of how difficult it is, particularly when it's in response to a safety issue like a thrown bat.

Spot on.   This isn't inserting ourselves into the game at all;  it's just a matter of cleaning up someone else's (the bat flipper) mess.   That's what we're paid to do, more often than not.

[Stk004]

On 7/24/2017 at 1:19 PM, Mudisfun said:

The coitus comment... reminded me of Sheldon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkKuyiLpSS8 

[JSam21]

I'm sorry but the guys that wouldn't get the hook out on this one are a problem for every other umpire out there in my opinion. That line of thought is lazy umpiring. Toss the kid, go home and, write your report. It is part of the job we signed up to do. It isn't good "game management", it is lazy umpiring. 

[beerguy55]

1 hour ago, JSam21 said:

I'm sorry but the guys that wouldn't get the hook out on this one are a problem for every other umpire out there in my opinion. That line of thought is lazy umpiring. Toss the kid, go home and, write your report. It is part of the job we signed up to do. It isn't good "game management", it is lazy umpiring. 

It puts you in the unenviable position of trying to answer why an ump you don't know, in a game you didn't see, didn't eject a player on a team you've never heard of, for doing "the exact same thing" two weeks ago.  That conversation rarely ends well.