Bunt on 2 strike count

[Guest Duwane]

As I understand the rule, fouled bunt on a 2 strike count is strike 3, Batter out.....but

 

0 out, a runner on second base. 2 strikes on the batter.

Runner takes off to 3rd, batter turns to bunt. bunted ball is not fair. Strike 3 batter out.

Where does the runner end up? 3rd base on the 3rd strike? or does runner return to 2nd base on a foul ball?

***Can a single pitch be a strike 3 and a foul ball?

[scrounge]

It's just a foul ball, so runner goes back to second. The only difference is the batter is out due to bunting. A batter isn't out on a foul ball with two strikes UNLESS it's with a bunt. That exception doesn't change the foul ball to live, it just affects the batter.

[FleasOf1000Camels]

What scrounge said.

[noumpere]

can you imagine the game if runners were allowed to advance on a foul bunt?  Heck, almost everyone would be able to score from second and some from first.  Or, the defense would have to shift to cover it, increasing the batting average significantly.  We might as well play cricket.

[maven]

24 minutes ago, noumpere said:

can you imagine the game if runners were allowed to advance on a foul bunt?  Heck, almost everyone would be able to score from second and some from first.  Or, the defense would have to shift to cover it, increasing the batting average significantly.  We might as well play cricket.

Runners can advance on a foul bunt, provided that it's a foul fly ball that is caught and the runner legally retouches (and the batter didn't make the 3rd out).

But I know what you mean.

My only minuscule quibble with scrounge's original post is that a foul ball isn't necessarily dead, as his post might suggest ("That exception doesn't change the foul ball to live..."). I didn't say anything sooner because his most general remark is the one we want to make: "The only difference is the batter is out due to bunting [foul]." All the other foul ball provisions apply.

[Guest Duwane]

Agreed, but my reason for asking was because i could not find a rule on it. The only rule i found was bunt fouled on two strikes is strike three.

[Senor Azul]

You have to put a couple of other rules together with the one you have already found to cover the situation you are asking about. Here they are:

from the definitions--A strike is a legal pitch when so called by the umpire, which… (d) Is bunted foul.

6.03 The ball becomes dead and runners advance one base, or return to their bases, without liability to be put out, when… (e) A foul ball is not caught, in which case runners return to their bases….

5.09 A batter is out when—(d) He bunts foul on third strike…

[JaxRolo]

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