Missed base

[Tksjewelry]

13u MLB, 2 outs bases load. Batter walks, runner on third is running and slides into home, no idea why he slid, but he did. Totally missed the plate as he slides in front of the catcher who was standing on the front of the plate. Runner heads towards dugout but never goes in. Ball comes in to the catcher and catcher tags runner as he's trying to come back and tag home. I call runner out. That's correct isn't it? VC is pissed, he's claiming it's a dead ball because of the walk, I know that's wrong. Then he claims catcher is blocking the plate, he wasn't. He was on the front of the plate.

[BuckeyeMike]

All legal, all good.

 

There's a fine line as to when you rule someone out "heading toward the dugout", and it sounds like you waited and got this right. 

 

Good call in my book.

[Tksjewelry]

Thanks. My partner didn't think that was right and had me questioning myself.

[Replacematt]

All legal, all good.

 

There's a fine line as to when you rule someone out "heading toward the dugout", and it sounds like you waited and got this right. 

 

Good call in my book.

Not relevant. He has reached home and will remain safe absent a proper appeal (which did occur.) At no point would he be ruled out automatically.

[Tksjewelry]

All legal, all good.

There's a fine line as to when you rule someone out "heading toward the dugout", and it sounds like you waited and got this right.

Good call in my book.

Not relevant. He has reached home and will remain safe absent a proper appeal (which did occur.) At no point would he be ruled out automatically.

My partner was saying he's out only when he gets into the dugout. I knew that wasn't right (that's a slowpitch rule) but it was one of those calls where you question it because he was so adamant.

[BuckeyeMike]

Can someone please post the different ways to QUOTE again?  That function hasn't worked for me for a while now.

 

Matt, I agree that I misspoke.  You are right.   No way, no how are you going to call a guy out for missing HP without an appeal, no matter how far into the inner-depths of the stadium he chooses to go. 

 

I think I was melding U3K rules with something else. 

[grayhawk]

You nailed it. Great job!

[Tksjewelry]

Can someone please post the different ways to QUOTE again? That function hasn't worked for me for a while now.

Matt, I agree that I misspoke. You are right. No way, no how are you going to call a guy out for missing HP without an appeal, no matter how far into the inner-depths of the stadium he chooses to go.

I think I was melding U3K rules with something else.

Are you using tapatalk?

[BuckeyeMike]

No

[kylehutson]

I had a similar oddball situation this week. Bases loaded, ball hit safely to F9. R3 steps over home plate but well before any play there. R2 rounds third and also steps over the plate, beating the ball to the catcher by about a second (enough there was no question that R2 beat the throw, but not enough that R2 could jog in). F1 yells to F2 to tag R2 because they didn't touch the plate. F2 appeals R2 by tagging. No appeal is made on R3. Result: 1 score and 1 out. The kicker: This was by the HT, who was down by one in the 7th inning with one out when this happened. If no appeal had been made, 2 runs score, game is over, HT wins. If both appeals had been made, 2 outs, game is over, VT wins. As it was, it went to extra innings. 

[labguy1971]

13u MLB, 2 outs bases load. Batter walks, runner on third is running and slides into home, no idea why he slid, but he did. Totally missed the plate as he slides in front of the catcher who was standing on the front of the plate. Runner heads towards dugout but never goes in. Ball comes in to the catcher and catcher tags runner as he's trying to come back and tag home. I call runner out. That's correct isn't it? VC is pissed, he's claiming it's a dead ball because of the walk, I know that's wrong. Then he claims catcher is blocking the plate, he wasn't. He was on the front of the plate.

Sounds like the coach was fishing for a reason to be pissed because his ballplayer missed the plate.  Looks like you handled it the right way.

[maven]

Your partner was thinking the runner abandoned. He did not abandon, he acquired HP by passing it.

Since he missed it, he's liable to be out on appeal. Good call.

[Tksjewelry]

Your partner was thinking the runner abandoned. He did not abandon, he acquired HP by passing it.

Since he missed it, he's liable to be out on appeal. Good call.

Do you have a rule number on that. UIC is telling me I'm wrong, now I'm confused.

[Rich Ives]

 

Your partner was thinking the runner abandoned. He did not abandon, he acquired HP by passing it.

Since he missed it, he's liable to be out on appeal. Good call.

Do you have a rule number on that. UIC is telling me I'm wrong, now I'm confused.

 

 

It's a missed base. A missed base has to be appealed. What more is there?

 

There is no "out entering the dugout after missing the plate" rule so it can't be cited.

[ricka56]

OBR 7.08k says how a missed HP appeal should be handled (like you did it, I think).

 

But there have been threads about a runner not quite reaching the plate and then going to the dugout on the 3B side...some say that this is abandonment (not a missed base) and call the runner out when he went into the dugout. Maybe that is what your UIC thinks happened. But if the runner went past HP, then this is a missed base (no question) and treated as such.