What is considered a play?

[Guest UMP27]

A common phrase being mentioned during different aspect of the rules that I do not have good grasp on. The term "play" Appeal is only valid until a pitch or play is made or first play in the infield. What is considered a play and more importantly what does not count as a "play"?

[noumpere]

After a fielder has the ball (so not a catch / glove of a batted ball) a fielder makes a legitimate attempt (or throw) to retire a runner.  Not a feint or a bluff or a "look back."

 

The exact wording is in NAPBL / PBUC / MLBUM etc and will be quoted shortly.

[UmpJM]

ump27,

 

This is how the MLBUM defines it, and it is valid for all codes:

 

5.1 PLAY OR ATTEMPTED PLAY

The following interpretation of "play or attempted play" applies to both awarding of bases

(Official Baseball Rule 7.05(g)) and appeal plays (Official Baseball Rule 7.10):

A play or attempted play is interpreted as a legitimate effort by a defensive player who has

possession of the ball to actually retire a runner. This may include an actual attempt to tag a

runner, a fielder running toward a base with the ball in an attempt to force or tag a runner, or

actually throwing to another defensive player in an attempt to retire a runner. (The fact that the

runner is not out is not relevant.) A fake or a feint to throw shall not be deemed a play or an

attempted play.

 

Somewhat counterintuitively, a fielder making a legal catch on a batted fly ball for an out is NOT a play.

 

JM

[UmpJM]

After a fielder has the ball (so not a catch / glove of a batted ball) a fielder makes a legitimate attempt (or throw) to retire a runner.  Not a feint or a bluff or a "look back."

 

The exact wording is in NAPBL / PBUC / MLBUM etc and will be quoted shortly.

 

noumpere,

 

Are you bulimic? (lame Zoolander reference....)

 

JM

[noumpere]

 

 

 

noumpere,

 

Are you bulimic? (lame Zoolander reference....)

 

JM

 

I have no idea to what you are referring.  Seriously.

[grayhawk]

 

After a fielder has the ball (so not a catch / glove of a batted ball) a fielder makes a legitimate attempt (or throw) to retire a runner.  Not a feint or a bluff or a "look back."

 

The exact wording is in NAPBL / PBUC / MLBUM etc and will be quoted shortly.

 

noumpere,

 

Are you bulimic? (lame Zoolander reference....)

 

JM

 

 

Let's be clear - all Zoolander references are lame...

[CricketChapman]

 

 

After a fielder has the ball (so not a catch / glove of a batted ball) a fielder makes a legitimate attempt (or throw) to retire a runner.  Not a feint or a bluff or a "look back."

 

The exact wording is in NAPBL / PBUC / MLBUM etc and will be quoted shortly.

 

noumpere,

 

Are you bulimic? (lame Zoolander reference....)

 

JM

 

 

Let's be clear - all Zoolander references are lame...

 

But JM invented the piano key necktie.  What did you do?

[grayhawk]

 

 

 

After a fielder has the ball (so not a catch / glove of a batted ball) a fielder makes a legitimate attempt (or throw) to retire a runner.  Not a feint or a bluff or a "look back."

 

The exact wording is in NAPBL / PBUC / MLBUM etc and will be quoted shortly.

 

noumpere,

 

Are you bulimic? (lame Zoolander reference....)

 

JM

 

 

Let's be clear - all Zoolander references are lame...

 

But JM invented the piano key necktie.  What did you do?

 

 

I invented the diagram that shows you how to put batteries in something.  (Steven Wright reference)

[UmpJM]

 

 

 

After a fielder has the ball (so not a catch / glove of a batted ball) a fielder makes a legitimate attempt (or throw) to retire a runner.  Not a feint or a bluff or a "look back."

 

The exact wording is in NAPBL / PBUC / MLBUM etc and will be quoted shortly.

 

noumpere,

 

Are you bulimic? (lame Zoolander reference....)

 

JM

 

 

Let's be clear - all Zoolander references are lame...

 

But JM invented the piano key necktie.  What did you do?

 

 

Quod erat demonstrandum....

 

JM

[maven]

 

 

 

 

noumpere,

 

Are you bulimic? (lame Zoolander reference....)

 

JM

 

I have no idea to what you are referring.  Seriously.

 

 

[noumpere]

No idea what the clip is from, but I guess I get the reference.

 

When it first was posted, I thought it was a reference to a person who used a wheelchair to see animals in cages.

[Guest UMP27]

Thank you guys, so an error would not be considered a "play" must have posession and make an attempt. A fielding error is not a play but a throwing error is?

[UmpJM]

UMP 27,

 

Not sure where you're going with that, but I think that's true....probably.... 

 

JM

[johnnyg08]

From MLBUM to piggy back JM's post.

 

 

 

[Ump29]

The following is a direct cut and paste from the Canadian Content Official Interpretations of OBR.

 

Interpretation: A play or an attempted play shall be considered as one of the five

following situations:

 

Tag or attempted tag of a runner

 

Tag or attempted tag of a base

 

Throw from another fielder in an attempt to get an out

 

Rundown

 

Balk

[maineump]

This all changes if the offense causes the play to be made - such as drawing the throw by stealing etc... The offense cannot cause the 'play' to attempted - if that happens then an appeal can still be made

[sdix00]

This all changes if the offense causes the play to be made - such as drawing the throw by stealing etc... The offense cannot cause the 'play' to attempted - if that happens then an appeal can still be made

 

Not in all codes. 

[Dash Riprock]

Rundown doesn't really need to be on the list.

[CricketChapman]

 

This all changes if the offense causes the play to be made - such as drawing the throw by stealing etc... The offense cannot cause the 'play' to attempted - if that happens then an appeal can still be made

 

Not in all codes. 

 

If the offense initiates the play in FED or NCAA, the opportunity to appeal is not lost.  If either team initiates the play in OBR, the opportunity to appeal is lost.