Rubbing Mud

[Haid D' Salaami]

Little harsh! No?

nope..not at all.. have some thick skin....But did i say anything that wasnt true?

[Haid D' Salaami]

 

 

 

 

What does an umpire need with rubbing mud, unless he's upper level college or pro circuit? 

It is for college (D1-D3, juco) and summer college ball.  Actually I go through quite a bit.

 

Is it required you provided this?

If so, glad I don't and won't ever work those levels.

Sounds like something teams should provide.

 

So spending 20.00$ on some mud, is a reason you dont want to work upper level college ball.. thats really funny.....

 

Is it required?.. No... heck not very many places make/ask you to rub up..

I'm glad you dont work those levels cause buying mud would make it a real pain in the arse...

Some teams do provide, but since you won't ( or maybe there are other reasons ) work that level, I guess you wont know.

 

Litle crap like this pisses me off.. you can work over 300+ games but cant buy mud.... I guess I know why you umpire games.

 

Wow!

 

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

 

Like i said... he can brag about working over 300+ games, but wont buy Mud to rub up baseball's... come on man..." i won't work College cause I will have to rub baseballs".. thats funny

[Haid D' Salaami]

And this is the other reason I cant get even a nod for member of the month, cause I'm a little to real for some people, I wont sugar coat things. cause if were on the field, things wont be easy either.

[Thunderheads]

And this is the other reason I cant get even a nod for member of the month, cause I'm a little to real for some people, I wont sugar coat things. cause if were on the field, things wont be easy either.

Nothing wrong with that at all!  Keep it real, and keep it coming!!

[grayhawk]

If I worked a level that required umpires to rub the baseballs, then I would do so without hesitation.  That said, it is my personal opinion that this is something umpires should not have to do.  Should we drag and line the field too?  Maybe we should sell hot dogs in the concession stand between innings.  Team personnel (ball/bat boys, etc) are the ones that should be doing this, not umpires.  The only possible reason I can think of for umpires to do this is to ensure nobody is doctoring the baseballs prior to the game.  That probably happened once 50 years ago so they made the umpires rub up the baseballs after that.

[johnnyg08]

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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[grayhawk]

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not.

[BigUmpire]

I think celt62s complaint is that he has to purchase the mud.

We all spend enough on US.

What is next chalk, rosin baseballs.

[Jimurray]

If you do go to a site that gives you the balls to rub up and you don't carry mud with you just don't go outside the dressing room and take some dirt from the flower bed. We had a crew do that and the school was not happy.

[BigUmpire]

If you do go to a site that gives you the balls to rub up and you don't carry mud with you just don't go outside the dressing room and take some dirt from the flower bed. We had a crew do that and the school was not happy.

Then THEY should provide the mud.

Simple.

 

You can train schools and leagues to do the right thing.

Unless you belong to a sissy, group that agrees to it without reimbursing you for this. 

[JaxRolo]

 

If you do go to a site that gives you the balls to rub up and you don't carry mud with you just don't go outside the dressing room and take some dirt from the flower bed. We had a crew do that and the school was not happy.

Then THEY should provide the mud.

Simple.

 

You can train schools and leagues to do the right thing.

Unless you belong to a sissy, group that agrees to it without reimbursing you for this. 

 

Tax Deduction!

[Mike Prince]

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not.

 

 

From the NCAA rulebook (got this on-line with a quick Google search):

 

RULE 1 / The Game, Playing Field and Equipment

a. The home team shall present one dozen game baseballs to the umpires to be rubbed up to remove the gloss before the game starts. Enough balls should be rubbed up so that a glossy ball is not used in the game. Moistened river silt makes an excellent material to remove the gloss from baseballs.

b. Before the game, the umpire-in-chief shall determine whether game balls meet those specifications. During the contest, any umpire may judge the fitness of the ball for play.

[BigUmpire]

The less I deal with Uncle Sam the better.

[BigUmpire]

 

 

_{Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?}

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_{What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not.}

 

 

_{From the NCAA rulebook (got this on-line with a quick Google search):}

 

_{RULE 1 / The Game, Playing Field and Equipment}

_{a. The home team shall present one dozen game baseballs to the umpires to be rubbed up to remove the gloss before the game starts. Enough balls should be rubbed up so that a glossy ball is not used in the game. Moistened river silt makes an excellent material to remove the gloss from baseballs.}

_{b. Before the game, the umpire-in-chief shall determine whether game balls meet those specifications. During the contest, any umpire may judge the fitness of the ball for play.}

 

 

I have rubbed up plenty as a rookie BUT the book does not say the umpires must provide the mud.

 

 

Responsibility creep!

[Thunderheads]

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not.

 

Whao? really?  I always at least rub them in the dirt by home plate to get some shine off for the F1's .....

[Jimurray]

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not.

Whao? really?  I always at least rub them in the dirt by home plate to get some shine off for the F1's .....

If you throw the pitcher a pearl he's going to rub it up and more than likely grab a handful of dirt to do it. Then your partner is going to have to call time and inspect the baseball and rub it up himself.

[grayhawk]

 

 

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not. Whao? really?  I always at least rub them in the dirt by home plate to get some shine off for the F1's .....

If you throw the pitcher a pearl he's going to rub it up and more than likely grab a handful of dirt to do it. Then your partner is going to have to call time and inspect the baseball and rub it up himself.

 

 

Good theory, but this doesn't happen.  They just start warming up and play the game.  They're plenty worn by the end of the first inning anyway.  If they want baseballs without a sheen on them, then I suggest they take the sheen off themselves.  When you need more baseballs in a later inning, do you rub those up too?  What if the batter fouls off four in a row into the ravine on the right side and they give you three pearls - do you rub those up during the at-bat?  Keep in mind that NFHS baseballs have stitching that is MUCH more raised than MLB baseballs - they don't need the sheen rubbed off them nearly as much.

 

I know a guy that has thrown baseballs to the pitcher still in their plastic wrapping because that's how they were given to him.  I would never do that, but pretty funny nonetheless.

[JaxRolo]

 

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not.

 

Whao? really?  I always at least rub them in the dirt by home plate to get some shine off for the F1's .....

 

Dirt defaces the ball.

[grayhawk]

 

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not.

 

 

From the NCAA rulebook (got this on-line with a quick Google search):

 

RULE 1 / The Game, Playing Field and Equipment

a. The home team shall present one dozen game baseballs to the umpires to be rubbed up to remove the gloss before the game starts. Enough balls should be rubbed up so that a glossy ball is not used in the game. Moistened river silt makes an excellent material to remove the gloss from baseballs.

b. Before the game, the umpire-in-chief shall determine whether game balls meet those specifications. During the contest, any umpire may judge the fitness of the ball for play.

 

 

Thanks - figured it was NCAA related.  I only work HS and below.

[ALStripes17]

In college, we would start the beginning of our spring by hitting a few wrapped pearls out of the plastic. Like busting the piñata at a 5 year old's birthday party (don't judge me).

Whoever forced the ball out of the wrapping got to keep the pearl as their official warm up ball for the season. Supposedly brought good luck haha

[Mike Prince]

 

 

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not.

 

 

From the NCAA rulebook (got this on-line with a quick Google search):

 

RULE 1 / The Game, Playing Field and Equipment

a. The home team shall present one dozen game baseballs to the umpires to be rubbed up to remove the gloss before the game starts. Enough balls should be rubbed up so that a glossy ball is not used in the game. Moistened river silt makes an excellent material to remove the gloss from baseballs.

b. Before the game, the umpire-in-chief shall determine whether game balls meet those specifications. During the contest, any umpire may judge the fitness of the ball for play.

 

 

Thanks - figured it was NCAA related.  I only work HS and below.

 

Me too.

[Thunderheads]

 

 

 

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not. Whao? really?  I always at least rub them in the dirt by home plate to get some shine off for the F1's .....

If you throw the pitcher a pearl he's going to rub it up and more than likely grab a handful of dirt to do it. Then your partner is going to have to call time and inspect the baseball and rub it up himself.

 

 

Good theory, but this doesn't happen.  They just start warming up and play the game.  They're plenty worn by the end of the first inning anyway.  If they want baseballs without a sheen on them, then I suggest they take the sheen off themselves.  When you need more baseballs in a later inning, do you rub those up too?  What if the batter fouls off four in a row into the ravine on the right side and they give you three pearls - do you rub those up during the at-bat?  Keep in mind that NFHS baseballs have stitching that is MUCH more raised than MLB baseballs - they don't need the sheen rubbed off them nearly as much.

 

I know a guy that has thrown baseballs to the pitcher still in their plastic wrapping because that's how they were given to him.  I would never do that, but pretty funny nonetheless.

 

Steve, ...within reason man, within reason!! LOL

[grayhawk]

 

 

 

 

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not. Whao? really?  I always at least rub them in the dirt by home plate to get some shine off for the F1's .....

If you throw the pitcher a pearl he's going to rub it up and more than likely grab a handful of dirt to do it. Then your partner is going to have to call time and inspect the baseball and rub it up himself.

 

 

Good theory, but this doesn't happen.  They just start warming up and play the game.  They're plenty worn by the end of the first inning anyway.  If they want baseballs without a sheen on them, then I suggest they take the sheen off themselves.  When you need more baseballs in a later inning, do you rub those up too?  What if the batter fouls off four in a row into the ravine on the right side and they give you three pearls - do you rub those up during the at-bat?  Keep in mind that NFHS baseballs have stitching that is MUCH more raised than MLB baseballs - they don't need the sheen rubbed off them nearly as much.

 

I know a guy that has thrown baseballs to the pitcher still in their plastic wrapping because that's how they were given to him.  I would never do that, but pretty funny nonetheless.

 

Steve, ...within reason man, within reason!! LOL

 

 

My point is that this is HS baseball.  In the NCAA, they give you a dozen prior to the game and you rub all of them up so the baseballs they bring into the game later are already rubbed up.  In HS, they give you 3 or 4 at the plate meeting, and frankly, I have more important duties to attend to than rub the sheen off of baseballs.  I'm taking warmup pitches, getting to know F2, checking to see if F1 is using a hybrid stance, making sure there aren't more than 2 guys warming up with bats, no equipment out of the dugout, etc.

[Thunderheads]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not. Whao? really?  I always at least rub them in the dirt by home plate to get some shine off for the F1's .....

If you throw the pitcher a pearl he's going to rub it up and more than likely grab a handful of dirt to do it. Then your partner is going to have to call time and inspect the baseball and rub it up himself.

 

 

Good theory, but this doesn't happen.  They just start warming up and play the game.  They're plenty worn by the end of the first inning anyway.  If they want baseballs without a sheen on them, then I suggest they take the sheen off themselves.  When you need more baseballs in a later inning, do you rub those up too?  What if the batter fouls off four in a row into the ravine on the right side and they give you three pearls - do you rub those up during the at-bat?  Keep in mind that NFHS baseballs have stitching that is MUCH more raised than MLB baseballs - they don't need the sheen rubbed off them nearly as much.

 

I know a guy that has thrown baseballs to the pitcher still in their plastic wrapping because that's how they were given to him.  I would never do that, but pretty funny nonetheless.

 

Steve, ...within reason man, within reason!! LOL

 

 

My point is that this is HS baseball.  In the NCAA, they give you a dozen prior to the game and you rub all of them up so the baseballs they bring into the game later are already rubbed up.  In HS, they give you 3 or 4 at the plate meeting, and frankly, I have more important duties to attend to than rub the sheen off of baseballs.  I'm taking warmup pitches, getting to know F2, checking to see if F1 is using a hybrid stance, making sure there aren't more than 2 guys warming up with bats, no equipment out of the dugout, etc.

 

Steve, I'm not talking about a complete rub-down for god's sake ...it's just roll in the dirt with my shoe, pick it up, rub it, done, ... 2 seconds, ... it can easily be done  between the time you get the baseballs and the plate meeting beginning ........  that being said, I agree w/ your post here, I understand what you're saying completely

[grayhawk]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Except by rule the umpire rubs the baseballs. When they toss you three pearls to start the game what do you do then?

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What rule requires the umpires to rub the baseballs? As to your question, I make sure they have the NFHS stamp on them, and then I put two in my right ball bag and give one to F2.  I couldn't care less if they are rubbed up or not. Whao? really?  I always at least rub them in the dirt by home plate to get some shine off for the F1's .....

If you throw the pitcher a pearl he's going to rub it up and more than likely grab a handful of dirt to do it. Then your partner is going to have to call time and inspect the baseball and rub it up himself.

 

 

Good theory, but this doesn't happen.  They just start warming up and play the game.  They're plenty worn by the end of the first inning anyway.  If they want baseballs without a sheen on them, then I suggest they take the sheen off themselves.  When you need more baseballs in a later inning, do you rub those up too?  What if the batter fouls off four in a row into the ravine on the right side and they give you three pearls - do you rub those up during the at-bat?  Keep in mind that NFHS baseballs have stitching that is MUCH more raised than MLB baseballs - they don't need the sheen rubbed off them nearly as much.

 

I know a guy that has thrown baseballs to the pitcher still in their plastic wrapping because that's how they were given to him.  I would never do that, but pretty funny nonetheless.

 

Steve, ...within reason man, within reason!! LOL

 

 

My point is that this is HS baseball.  In the NCAA, they give you a dozen prior to the game and you rub all of them up so the baseballs they bring into the game later are already rubbed up.  In HS, they give you 3 or 4 at the plate meeting, and frankly, I have more important duties to attend to than rub the sheen off of baseballs.  I'm taking warmup pitches, getting to know F2, checking to see if F1 is using a hybrid stance, making sure there aren't more than 2 guys warming up with bats, no equipment out of the dugout, etc.

 

Steve, I'm not talking about a complete rub-down for god's sake ...it's just roll in the dirt with my shoe, pick it up, rub it, done, ... 2 seconds, ... it can easily be done  between the time you get the baseballs and the plate meeting beginning ........  that being said, I agree w/ your post here, I understand what you're saying completely

 

 

It's all good Jeff.  If others want to rub up the baseballs, have at it.  I used to do it but feel like it's just a waste of time since the balls get worn pretty fast during the game anyway.  It's not like we're replacing a ball when a pitch hits the dirt like in MLB.  I will only remove a ball if the stitching breaks, or if there is a pretty severe gash or tear in it.  Schools have tight budgets.