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In 12 years, I have never had an experience like this. Quick background on game:

 

HS - VAR  HT is 8-3 on the year, VT is 11-1 (only loss is to HT). Conference rivals. Not friendly. Partner and I were put on game 2 days before because guys who were on the game apparently shouldn't have been.  

 

HT scores 3 in bottom of 7th to force extras. Now we are in top of 9. Bases loaded (Walk, HBP, Error), 1 out. 3-1 pitch is low (for some reason, despite working the slot very well, I was tighter than usual on low pitches, but I stayed fairly consistent . Run walks in. HT HC loses his mind, I ignore it. Next batter triple on a very hung breaking ball (my fault of course). HT is losing their minds out of the dugout, HC takes a couple of steps out, argues something that I wasn't going to acknowledge, heads back into dugout. Inning ends, game is 9-4. 

 

HT up to bat in bottom 9th, first out is a whacker at first, and the kid is out (correct call from what I could see trailing the play up the line). 2nd out, is a diving catch in right field, partner went out, had good position. Home 1st base coach goes nuts on my partner, who immediately put him in his place. Games ends on a swinging (thankfully) strike 3. Now the fun part.

 

Walking off the field, my partner was ahead of me by about 10 feet (he wanted to give a quick thanks to the trainer for helping with a concussion that happened during the game). I'm about half way between the 3rd base line and the dugout when I have a baseball land about a foot away from me. I turn around to see the home first base coach glaring at me. I give him a look that must have let him know that I thought the ball came from him because he replied "Yea, I threw it, I was aiming for the dugout. Keep walking". Well, that was enough for me, I dumped him. I was no wear near the opening of the dugout, and if he wanted the ball (which was the game ball he picked up near the mound from the final out) in the dugout so bad, my opinion is he should have put it in his pocket, or thrown it no where near me. 

 

Thoughts? 

 

And before I start getting comments that you would have dumped someone in the 9th, yes, the coaches were getting a little extra rope because I understood the importance and rivalry of the game. I have thicker skin when needed, I just saw this as an easy EJ

 

Damn that was a lot of words!

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Eh...there's a difference between having thick skin and letting yourself get walked all over by people "losing their minds" multiple times in an inning.

 

Regarding the baseball being thrown at you, A) I would have kept the ball B) I would have said something back like "Do I look like I was born yesterday?", left, and filed my report, stating a coach intentionally threw a baseball at me after the game.

 

Gotta disagree about the second paragraph.  This kind of behavior MUST be dealt with harshly.  He threw the ball, admitted it (with the lame excuse that he was throwing it to the dugout) and then told him to keep walking.  If it was an accident, he would have apologized.  Automatic ejection, and hopefully the school deals with him harshly as well.  Perhaps Plate Duster missed an EJ earlier - don't know, wasn't there - but this dump was absolutely correct.

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Even if you are going to keep him after losing it in the dugout, you have to shut it down. The post game ejection, all day.

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Posted

Sorry, we are encouraged to file a report via Arbiter on confrontations that don't result in ejection.  This is separate from an EJ report, and I thought you were saying you wouldn't have ejected.

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I would need you to define "loses his mind" to know if you missed an EJ in the 9th, but the postgame ejection was fine as long as your association allows them.

 

Semi unrelated, but who was concussed during the game? I see no reason to thank the trainer after the game unless it was one of you, and if it was one of you, you shouldn't have still been working the game. Get the HECK out of dodge after a game like this.

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If I were in this situation, I would have gotten the police involved. If he tried to hit you with the ball, that is assault. I would do everything I could to try to get him punished so that the next crew does not ever have to deal with this assclown again.

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And before I start getting comments that you would have dumped someone in the 9th, yes, the coaches were getting a little extra rope because I understood the importance and rivalry of the game. I have thicker skin when needed, I just saw this as an easy EJ

Agree.  My skin-thickness, tolerance and coach-rope-length gets thicker/longer when it's a big game.  I understand.

 

In THIS situation, absolutely no way am i getting any police involved.  (sorry T-Rav, but maybe I haven't had the experiences you have.......doesn't make you wrong though brother). 

 

IMO, this action WITH accompanying comment: "Yea, I threw it, I was aiming for the dugout. Keep walking" is what solicited the EJ.   Had a ball just landed a foot from me and nothing was said, I'm ok with that.  But that's just me.

 

Good EJ Plate Duster.

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As long as you are still on the field, post game ejections are allowed. 

 

 Unfortunately, not in my state. The state has determined that there are to be no post-game ejections, but there should be a post-game incident report filed, instead, The state takes post-game incidents very seriously, fining coaches more for those than for an ejection.

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As long as you are still on the field, post game ejections are allowed. 

 

 Unfortunately, not in my state. The state has determined that there are to be no post-game ejections, but there should be a post-game incident report filed, instead, The state takes post-game incidents very seriously, fining coaches more for those than for an ejection.

 

3.3.1g cites when you can and can not eject post game. 

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As long as you are still on the field, post game ejections are allowed. 

 

 Unfortunately, not in my state. The state has determined that there are to be no post-game ejections, but there should be a post-game incident report filed, instead, The state takes post-game incidents very seriously, fining coaches more for those than for an ejection.

 

3.3.1g cites when you can and can not eject post game. 

 

 

For the penalty on 3-3-1g(7) - which deals with post game conduct - the state association shall determine the appropriate action.

Posted

If you're going to be ultra-tolerant during the game, why wouldn't that extra tolerance extend to the postgame as well?

 

Either way, sounds like somebody deserved to go at some point.

Posted

If I were in this situation, I would have gotten the police involved. If he tried to hit you with the ball, that is assault. I would do everything I could to try to get him punished so that the next crew does not ever have to deal with this assclown again.

I agree with police involvement. Some of these coaches just don't get it! In Florida it is a Felony against the coach for an incident with any sports official.

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