Bobby V gets dumped. Again

[Jocko]

Alfonso Marquez dumped Bobby V and a player after the 3rd out in the bottom of the 8th. He stood there smacking his gum while BV called him a f*****g a**hole.

Then, the DB announcers accused him of egging it on by looking toward the dugout. Calling for accountability. Jackwagons.

[BRUMP]

It was Cody Ross and I believe a coach for dumped too.

[cyclonehokiece]

And this is surprising why? Everyone and their brother knows Bobby V has lost control in Bean Town.

[Lindsay]

With his latest ejection, Bobby Valentine now holds the Red Sox franchise record for most ejections in one season.

UEFL's Miller Rule also has this as a correct call by Marquez.

[Maineac]

With his latest ejection, Bobby Valentine now holds the Red Sox franchise record for most ejections in one season.

Looks like Bobby has finally found something he is good at.

[Thunderheads]

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[Jocko]

There's Alfonso. Smacking away on his gum.

[BRUMP]

With his latest ejection, Bobby Valentine now holds the Red Sox franchise record for most ejections in one season.

Looks like Bobby has finally found something he is good at.

He's a douche.

[Rich Ives]

And this is surprising why? Everyone and their brother knows Bobby V has lost control in Bean Town.

He never had it. Control was lost last year which is why Francona is gone. We'll wait and see if the recent trade changed the chemistry enough. I think Aceves is soon to be gone too. He had an attitude elsewhere also..

[Dannytheman]

I sure wish we could see the umpire reports on these vicious tirades. Fines would solve this kind of crap if they were serious enough. Calling someone a Fin' A$$hole with spit coming out of your mouth would be $50,000. to start. say 10,000 for every explitive that could be listed. Like 25,000 for CSer. Let's devise a system and forward it along?

[Rich Ives]

I sure wish we could see the umpire reports on these vicious tirades. Fines would solve this kind of crap if they were serious enough. Calling someone a Fin' A$$hole with spit coming out of your mouth would be $50,000. to start. say 10,000 for every explitive that could be listed. Like 25,000 for CSer. Let's devise a system and forward it along?

OK.

But then how much are you willing to cough up for a proven bad call?

[Jocko]

I sure wish we could see the umpire reports on these vicious tirades. Fines would solve this kind of crap if they were serious enough. Calling someone a Fin' A$$hole with spit coming out of your mouth would be $50,000. to start. say 10,000 for every explitive that could be listed. Like 25,000 for CSer. Let's devise a system and forward it along?

OK.

But then how much are you willing to cough up for a proven bad call?

no such thing as a "bad" call. Erroneous, incorrect, booted, kicked, missed, etc..., but not "bad."

[dumbdumb]

I sure wish we could see the umpire reports on these vicious tirades. Fines would solve this kind of crap if they were serious enough. Calling someone a Fin' A$$hole with spit coming out of your mouth would be $50,000. to start. say 10,000 for every explitive that could be listed. Like 25,000 for CSer. Let's devise a system and forward it along?

OK.

But then how much are you willing to cough up for a proven bad call?

When they give up something for proven bad plays, then the umpires can give up for a proven bad call. Now on the issue of fines for maybe slipping and calling a player a name, I would pay the same percentage of my salary as the percentage the player pays out of his salary. Looks like I would be more lenient with the split contract guys versus the 20 mil guys?? doesn't it.

[Jocko]

You guys sound like Ford Frick. Fining umpires? F**K THAT. There's a difference in me performing my duties and possibly being incorrect on a judgement decision and a verbal attack. Get real.

[BRUMP]

You guys sound like Ford Frick. Fining umpires? F**K THAT. There's a difference in me performing my duties and possibly being incorrect on a judgement decision and a verbal attack. Get real.

I'm with you trout. When players start getting fined every time they swing and miss I'll cough up some money if (okay when) I kick one.

[dumbdumb]

You guys sound like Ford Frick. Fining umpires? F**K THAT. There's a difference in me performing my duties and possibly being incorrect on a judgement decision and a verbal attack. Get real.

I'm with you trout. When players start getting fined every time they swing and miss I'll cough up some money if (okay when) I kick one.

Just for the record, I do not go along with umpires being fined for missed calls and never will.

Now if you want to play hypothetical with umpires being fined on missed calls, YNJB expresses exactly the point I was getting at.

If you want to play hypothetical for an umpire cursing back at a player and getting fined, then I say that I would be willing to pay the same percentage of salary that the player has to pay on his salary with his fine.

[Rich Ives]

You guys sound like Ford Frick. Fining umpires? F**K THAT. There's a difference in me performing my duties and possibly being incorrect on a judgement decision and a verbal attack. Get real.

I'm with you trout. When players start getting fined every time they swing and miss I'll cough up some money if (okay when) I kick one.

When players and managers don't live up to standards they get benched, demoted, cut/fired, don't get resigned, retire. Failure means loss of their job - at all levels including MLB.

Umpires making it to MLB just keep going and going and going . . they're tenured. They can fail miserably and not lose. Nice contract they have don't you think?

How many of you have outlasted a lot of the coaches where you live? Why? Are you as a group so vastly superior that none of you are below average?

Does yoiur association fire umpires or just let them attrit themselves - perhaps encouraged by lack of "promotions".

You F up sometimes. Why should that be OK?

[Jocko]

You guys sound like Ford Frick. Fining umpires? F**K THAT. There's a difference in me performing my duties and possibly being incorrect on a judgement decision and a verbal attack. Get real.

I'm with you trout. When players start getting fined every time they swing and miss I'll cough up some money if (okay when) I kick one.

When players and managers don't live up to standards they get benched, demoted, cut/fired, don't get resigned, retire. Failure means loss of their job - at all levels including MLB.

Umpires making it to MLB just keep going and going and going . . they're tenured. They can fail miserably and not lose. Nice contract they have don't you think?

How many of you have outlasted a lot of the coaches where you live? Why? Are you as a group so vastly superior that none of you are below average?

Does yoiur association fire umpires or just let them attrit themselves - perhaps encouraged by lack of "promotions".

You F up sometimes. Why should that be OK?

you bring out the list maker in me

1. Yes, MLBUs have a sweet gig

2.1 We outlast because of why we do it. They quit when their kids grow up. We keep going because we love it.

2.2 I, nor the majority of guys in my assn are "below average." Some are DAMN good.

3. We do cut guys that don't fit the mold. We train the trainable, cut the dregs.

4. I never F up.

Consistency, thy name is Umpire. All anyone can ask is a consistent strike zone, unbiased judgement, good rules knowledge, and hustle.

[renegadewolf]

Umpires making it to MLB just keep going and going and going . . they're tenured. They can fail miserably and not lose. Nice contract they have don't you think?

Sounds like any other union gig to me..... that or a university professor :fuel:

[Rich Ives]

You guys sound like Ford Frick. Fining umpires? F**K THAT. There's a difference in me performing my duties and possibly being incorrect on a judgement decision and a verbal attack. Get real.

I'm with you trout. When players start getting fined every time they swing and miss I'll cough up some money if (okay when) I kick one.

When players and managers don't live up to standards they get benched, demoted, cut/fired, don't get resigned, retire. Failure means loss of their job - at all levels including MLB.

Umpires making it to MLB just keep going and going and going . . they're tenured. They can fail miserably and not lose. Nice contract they have don't you think?

How many of you have outlasted a lot of the coaches where you live? Why? Are you as a group so vastly superior that none of you are below average?

Does yoiur association fire umpires or just let them attrit themselves - perhaps encouraged by lack of "promotions".

You F up sometimes. Why should that be OK?

you bring out the list maker in me

1. Yes, MLBUs have a sweet gig

2.1 We outlast because of why we do it. They quit when their kids grow up. We keep going because we love it.

2.2 I, nor the majority of guys in my assn are "below average." Some are DAMN good.

3. We do cut guys that don't fit the mold. We train the trainable, cut the dregs.

4. I never F up.

Consistency, thy name is Umpire. All anyone can ask is a consistent strike zone, unbiased judgement, good rules knowledge, and hustle.

I was Ok with that until you got to statement 4. NOBODY falls into that category.

[Rich Ives]

Umpires making it to MLB just keep going and going and going . . they're tenured. They can fail miserably and not lose. Nice contract they have don't you think?

Sounds like any other union gig to me..... that or a university professor

Depends on the union. The players have one but they can get "fired". They comprehend the consequences of failure. Their bosses enforce it.

Umpires on the way up understand it. They go up or out. They accept that fact.

Why does MLB knuckle under to the MLB umpires?

[Rich Ives]

2.1 We outlast because of why we do it. They quit when their kids grow up. We keep going because we love it.

.

I started coaching in 1974.

My one and only was born in 1993.

I retired from coaching after his 12 yr old season but continue to be on the Board and am quite involved with our league.

Our Pres has a similar experience.

One of our board members has been involved since 1952. Another since the early 80's.

We had a concession manager that finally retired when her kids were in their 20's and through college.

Many of our volunteers have continued on after their kids left.

There are MANY MANY MANY youth sports leagues with the same type of involvement.

You aren't the only ones

[bam]

2.1 We outlast because of why we do it. They quit when their kids grow up. We keep going because we love it.

.

I started coaching in 1974.

My one and only was born in 1993.

I retired from coaching after his 12 yr old season but continue to be on the Board and am quite involved with our league.

Our Pres has a similar experience.

One of our board members has been involved since 1952. Another since the early 80's.

We had a concession manager that finally retired when her kids were in their 20's and through college.

Many of our volunteers have continued on after their kids left.

There are MANY MANY MANY youth sports leagues with the same type of involvement.

You aren't the only ones

I notice that you've never had the balls to umpire though. What a shocker.

[Jocko]

2.1 We outlast because of why we do it. They quit when their kids grow up. We keep going because we love it.

.

I started coaching in 1974.

My one and only was born in 1993.

I retired from coaching after his 12 yr old season but continue to be on the Board and am quite involved with our league.

Our Pres has a similar experience.

One of our board members has been involved since 1952. Another since the early 80's.

We had a concession manager that finally retired when her kids were in their 20's and through college.

Many of our volunteers have continued on after their kids left.

There are MANY MANY MANY youth sports leagues with the same type of involvement.

You aren't the only ones

I notice that you've never had the balls to umpire though. What a shocker.

He does, I believe, occasionally call games. Going strictly by his statements, he has spent little to no $ on gear/uniforms, so looks aren't inportant. Rainman stands on the wall for LL, so it's not inconcievable he is a volunteer, last resort because noone else is available umpire. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, I'm not throwing stones.

[Jocko]

I was Ok with that until you got to statement 4. NOBODY falls into that category.

sorry, Rainman. Along the same lines as there are no bad calls. Mistakes? Possibly. Errors? Rarely, but for the sake of argument, ok. F**k Ups? Not on the field. What you consider a f up, I might see/have seen/mental replay completely different. How is it a f up if opinions differ? Just because I'm gonna win the argument? Nope, we never f up. We just make calls some disagree with.