Overrunning 1B on a walk

[Steven Tyler]

My recollection for MLB is if batter-runner simply walks to 1st base and for some reason steps off or passes the bag he is subject to being tagged out.

However, if he "runs" through the bag for whatever reason he can return immediately without being at risk of being tagged out.

No, he can walk past the base, run past the base, skip past the base...whatever he wants as long as he does not make an attempt at 2nd base, just like on any other time he goes to 1st. He can also turn left or right as long as he returns immediately to 1st base. Unless BR makes a definitive move toward 2nd base, he can overrun 1st in any fashion.

I agree, but my definitive gets alot more broad. I think Fed got this one right. I never see it, since 99% of my games are NFHS

Use the same definition imo of course. And I'm sure that somewhere in the distant past that some HS coach had a batter run past first on a walk and the defense played on him and the runner from third scored. So to protect themselves against this type of play they put in the rule.

Now I for one would not enforce it on the 3-2 dropped ball checked swing scenario. It can be minimized of course if PU asks right away but Im still giving the runner the benefit of the doubt here. I think FED should put in an exception or a case for this, although it might not be worth it since it seems to happen a lot more on these discussion boards then on the field. lol.

The rule is the rule. It doesn't give any special exceptions. Enforce properly.

[Jocko]

If a train leaves Chicago at 4:00pm and travels 65 mph for 5 hours, what time is it GMT?

3:00am GMT is the correct answer. What do I win?

day after day of beautiful baseball weather. Congratulations.

[noumpere]

The rule is the rule. It doesn't give any special exceptions. Enforce properly.

Im sure I am, but thanks for worrying.

[Rich Ives]

If a train leaves Chicago at 4:00pm and travels 65 mph for 5 hours, what time is it GMT?

3:00am GMT is the correct answer. What do I win?

day after day of beautiful baseball weather. Congratulations.

Wait - was it 4PM local time and standard or daylight time?

[BretMan]

So it really is true....Rich really would argue the time of day if you gave it to him! :hopmad:

[Jocko]

If a train leaves Chicago at 4:00pm and travels 65 mph for 5 hours, what time is it GMT?

3:00am GMT is the correct answer. What do I win?

day after day of beautiful baseball weather. Congratulations.

Wait - was it 4PM local time and standard or daylight time?

yesterday afternoon, Chicago time

[gejoe00]

In FED you can over run 1B if you are given a intentional walk. When the coach or catcher tells you that they want to give the batter a intentional walk you call "TIME" and tell the batter to go to 1B. When he gets there you can put the ball in play. So if he over runs the bag, no big deal because the ball is not in play.

[Rich Ives]

So it really is true....Rich really would argue the time of day if you gave it to him!

Do you want to get the correct answer? You need to know the starting point.

[SanDiegoSteve]

2:00am if CDT 3:00 if CST. Now I want something better than baseball weather. I'm not umpiring right now so it doesn't help me at all.

[Jocko]

Sorry, the weather is all I have control over :)

[JaxRolo]

If a train leaves Chicago at 4:00pm and travels 65 mph for 5 hours, what time is it GMT?

What time is it when the train leaves? Or the train arrives?

[BretMan]

If a train leaves Chicago at 4:00pm and travels 65 mph for 5 hours, what time is it GMT?

Well, right now it is 12:47 p.m. GMT.

In one minute it will be 12:48 p.m. GMT.

[Jocko]

If a train leaves Chicago at 4:00pm and travels 65 mph for 5 hours, what time is it GMT?

Well, right now it is 12:47 p.m. GMT.

In one minute it will be 12:48 p.m. GMT.

If a train leaves Chicago at 4:00pm and travels 65 mph for 5 hours, what time is it GMT?

Well, right now it is 12:47 p.m. GMT.

In one minute it will be 12:48 p.m. GMT.

DING! DING! DING! :)

[Dannytheman]

Train will be late as usual.

[Steven Tyler]

If a train leaves Chicago at 4:00pm and travels 65 mph for 5 hours, what time is it GMT?

3:00am GMT is the correct answer. What do I win?

day after day of beautiful baseball weather. Congratulations.

Depends if was Daylight Savings Time or Standard Time in Chicagol

[SanDiegoSteve]

If a train leaves Chicago at 4:00pm and travels 65 mph for 5 hours, what time is it GMT?

3:00am GMT is the correct answer. What do I win?

day after day of beautiful baseball weather. Congratulations.

Depends if was Daylight Savings Time or Standard Time in Chicagol

See post #35. But that wasn't the answer he was looking for either.

[Steven Tyler]

The rule is the rule. It doesn't give any special exceptions. Enforce properly.

Im sure I am, but thanks for worrying.

Do I look worried?

[SanDiegoSteve]

The rule is the rule. It doesn't give any special exceptions. Enforce properly.

Im sure I am, but thanks for worrying.

Do I look worried?

How would anyone know what you look like, you've never posted a photo of yourself? Go ahead, we promise not to laugh.

[Jocko]

The rule is the rule. It doesn't give any special exceptions. Enforce properly.

Im sure I am, but thanks for worrying.

Do I look worried?

How would anyone know what you look like, you've never posted a photo of yourself? Go ahead, we promise not to laugh.

I reserve the right to laugh and post sarcastic statements.

[grayhawk]

Well, I was able to finish the discussion with the guy at CDP and he acquiesced.

Another funny thing happened while I was on the plate during a game there. During the regular games, each pitcher is allowed one balk warning (don't shoot the messenger). Early in the game, I called time and told F1 to takes his signs from the rubber. He was straddling and taking his signs and the runners were unable to get proper leads. My instruction was effective and he stopped doing it. Later in the inning, F1 blew through his stop and we called a balk. I announced that it was his warning and instructed the runners to stay put. My partner then signals me to come over and talk to him. When we get together, he says that we should enforce the balk because his warning was when I told him to take signs from the rubber. I simply told him that taking signs from the rubber isn't a balk and I would be happy to talk with him more about it after the game.

Just spreading U-E knowledge one umpire and one rule at a time.

[Jocko]

Well, I was able to finish the discussion with the guy at CDP and he acquiesced.

Another funny thing happened while I was on the plate during a game there. During the regular games, each pitcher is allowed one balk warning (don't shoot the messenger). Early in the game, I called time and told F1 to takes his signs from the rubber. He was straddling and taking his signs and the runners were unable to get proper leads. My instruction was effective and he stopped doing it. Later in the inning, F1 blew through his stop and we called a balk. I announced that it was his warning and instructed the runners to stay put. My partner then signals me to come over and talk to him. When we get together, he says that we should enforce the balk because his warning was when I told him to take signs from the rubber. I simply told him that taking signs from the rubber isn't a balk and I would be happy to talk with him more about it after the game.

Just spreading U-E knowledge one umpire and one rule at a time.

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