Spanish Auto-Ejection Triggers

[dumbdumb]

There have to be some umpires on this board somewhere that know quite a lot of Spanish IMHO, and should have given a list that the OP asked for, of words and phrases to be on the lookout for when umpiring a game where a lot of Spanish may be used. It is not fair that those who speak another language get to put one over on us with impunity just because they speak another language.

OK, since no one that knows Spanish will come right out with the words and terms, I will take a google hack at some things to look out for.

As MST said, be on the lookout for the word madre (mother) or tu madre because they are talking about your mother and nothing polite can be coming from the use of this word IMHO. tu padre about your father probably wouldn't be a good phrase either.

And MST's Puta or the phrase hijo de puta is a SOB

Pendejo is a&&&ole or stupid a&&

puneta means to j-off

mamapinga is a c su&&er

jodete means to go f yourself

chocha is pu&&y

cabron-man whose wife cheats on him and he doesn't have the guts to do anything about it. this can also be the hook em horns signal pointed right at the person.

no cojones-no b$$ls

mierda-sh&t

maricon-faggot

pinga-d$&k

conejo-c&&t

do not call a someone of Mexican descent a Cubano, you might get your butt wupped.

This is all I could find and may not be anywhere near accurate, let those who know tell us. However, if you are hearing a lot of these types of words, it doesn't sound like anything nice is being said.

If the above is too graphic, the moderators can delete

[JaxRolo]

DumbDumb I respect your opinions on this board. But have you read the previous replies?

Several words have been mentioned. Also, I am fluent Spanish. But like others have said Anything said in Spanish should be pretty much ejectable.

[Jocko]

Also, spanish is a language that is very regional. Rolo speaks what is spoken in Fl. I understand a little Tex-Mex. Folks from Cali have different forms, verbs, usages. All languages are subject to colloquialisms. For instance, in Alabama, if something is beyond repair, it is said to be "rurnt." I'm not making this up. It's etymology is the word "ruined." Improper? Yes. Grammatically incorrect? Absolutely. Everday redneck usage? You betcha. So, in different parts of the same counrty, the auto-EJ triggers may differ. Just as in English. What is a no-brainer EJ for you, I may let go.

[dumbdumb]

DumbDumb I respect your opinions on this board. But have you read the previous replies?

Several words have been mentioned. Also, I am fluent Spanish. But like others have said Anything said in Spanish should be pretty much ejectable.

Yes, but I got worried in your response in post #6 about warnings, rather than just automatically ejecting if they say something in Spanish, like post #3 said. We need to know what to warn somebody for and what should be an immediate ejection. Until post #24 and 2 or 3 other words, I would not have known what to listen for. If you or anyone else knows a lot of Spanish, I would have thought you or someone else would help out a little bit more with phrases and words that are immediately ejections versus some things that might just get a warning. I would not want to eject when a warning should be issued if I could have received some help here.

And yes, I realize the only way to be more perfect at this would be to speak Spanish fluently myself, but that ain't gonna happen. Sorry. At least I know more than when I started.

[Jocko]

What I mean is that some words mean different things in different dialects. For instance, to Mexicans in Texas, "cabron" (sp?) Isn't derogatory in and of itself. It is often used in place of homeboy, holmes, brother, my man, etc. The usage and context are what make it offensive, not the word. Some blacks refer to each other by a word that I would EJ for. It's accepted by them in the context it's used. No right or wrong, it just is what it is.

[Jocko]

La primera - telling each other to get the out at first

Segunda - second

Ball - ball

Strike - strike

Out - out

Maricon (sounds like mighty kong) - homosexual

Cabesa - head

Besa mi cula/culo - kiss my ass

Ca-Ca - sh*t

Some words just don't have literal/direct translations. they can mean different thing if used in different ways.

Anything you wanna add Rolo, mi hermano mallo?

[JaxRolo]

Dale con la pelota - hit him with the ball.

You guys have covered just about everything.

But I still think that anything directed at an Umpire in a different language is ejectable.

[dumbdumb]

Dale con la pelota - hit him with the ball.

You guys have covered just about everything.

But I still think that anything directed at an Umpire in a different language is ejectable.

thanks for the heads up in your first sentence that would possibly be the start a bean ball war, and we who do not speak Spanish would not know what is happening, but you would and could immediately warn or toss and others of us here would not think anything, just an accidental hit batter.

I like your 2nd sentence as to the thinking "directed at an Umpire" in a different language is ejectable.

[Umpire in Chief]

Many moons ago Ump81 & I had an NABA (Adult League) game one team was predominately a Puerto Rican team and the other was primarily Mexican.

My knowledge of Spanish ends at the Taco Bell menu, Ump81 has more knowledge but not much more.

The only English I heard for the 2 games was when I directly addressed a player or talking with my partner.

The games went pretty smoothly, and I'm very certain there was some Spanish smack-talking out there, it seemed to stay friendly for the most part, but I also learned there is apparently some dislike among the Puerto Rican & Mexican communities towards each other.

I had a pretty good relationship with both catchers I'd developed over the years and I told them both I didn't understand Spanish at all and I didn't care what they were saying, but if things were getting beyond the friendly point out there I expected them to let me know, and they agreed. I also told the catchers while I didn't understand Spanish, I can read posture, body language and attitude and would not hesitate to act based on that.

It was an interesting experience. The Mexican team has since disbanded.

[Jocko]

My Mexican League games are a riot. The guys talk smack all 9 innings, regardless of score. The only potential problem I had was when R2 trying for 3b was out by 15+ feet. F5 standing there with the ball and R2 tries to kung fu front kick his legs. Instant EJ and I immediately got both Mgrs together to make sure there would be no retaliation. One Mgr is the league president (his player was Bruce Lee wannabe). No problems ensued. Most of the players speak fair English, while a good portion are fluent. There was a fan with a trombone who thought he was a Mariachi. Funny funny funny.

[JaxRolo]

One thing to consider is the cultures.

I know Cubans tend to be very animated and use their arms lot.

[Jocko]

One thing to consider is the cultures.

I know Cubans tend to be very animated and use their arms lot.

think Ricky Ricardo.

Mexicans cuss. Alot. Chingow (spelling is wrong so this is phoenetic) means GD. Don't take it personal, unless directed at you.

Also, consider the age group you're dealing with.

[mstaylor]

Also, spanish is a language that is very regional. Rolo speaks what is spoken in Fl. I understand a little Tex-Mex. Folks from Cali have different forms, verbs, usages. All languages are subject to colloquialisms. For instance, in Alabama, if something is beyond repair, it is said to be "rurnt." I'm not making this up. It's etymology is the word "ruined." Improper? Yes. Grammatically incorrect? Absolutely. Everday redneck usage? You betcha. So, in different parts of the same counrty, the auto-EJ triggers may differ. Just as in English. What is a no-brainer EJ for you, I may let go.

I have never done hispanic baseball but have done quite a bit of soccer. I had a situation where things were getting tense and the players asked to watch what the opposing coach said. I told them I had no idea what he said. They laughed and said OK.

[MidAmUmp]

Conejo is the big one. I ran a 2nd baseman a couple years ago out of nowhere. He didn't like a pitch my partner balled and said "something, something, something, conejo!" I just turned and dumped him. He couldn't believe I ran him but the coach didn't put up too much of an argument.

The extent of my Spanish training comes from a local "Jimmy Buffett" style singer who performs a song with the chorus ... "How do you say f**k you in Spanish? Chinga Te! Que is correcto for kiss my a**. Besa mi culo. I ain't got no money, get me back to the USA. How do you say f**k you? Chinga Te!"

Also, once I had a Japanese 3rd baseman pop off in Japanese. I don't know what he said, but I asked him if he knew what "taijou" meant (ejection)? He said he did and I told him to watch what he said or I'd taijou him. There were 6 Japanese umpires at Wendelstedt's when I was there and I learned enough Japanese from them to be dangerous.

I would advise you to be very careful telling players, etc. anything like "speak english." I'm about as far from P.C. as possible, but in a P.C., discrimination lawsuit happy world, you need to be careful what you say and do on the field. Take it all in, play dumb and observe. If they are speaking english and now all of a sudden they aren't happy and start speaking spanish, it probably needs to be addressed. If a coach wants to discuss their lack of the english language, you now have evidence to back you.

[JaxRolo]

Isn't Conejo- rabbit?

[JaxRolo]

It's also a slang for pu$$y

[Welpe]

It's also a slang for pu$$y

I know a fair amount of Spanish and did not know that one. I don't believe it is popular amongst the California Mexican population where I learned most of the slang.

[Jocko]

See also chonch

[tldavis19]

Caiate(sp?) = Shut up. i don't think anyone covered that one. I wouldn't take being told to shut up as an umpire in any language haha.

[JaxRolo]

Caiate(sp?) = Shut up. i don't think anyone covered that one. I wouldn't take being told to shut up as an umpire in any language haha.

Callate - pronounced Caiate

[tldavis19]

Caiate(sp?) = Shut up. i don't think anyone covered that one. I wouldn't take being told to shut up as an umpire in any language haha.

Callate - pronounced Caiate

The double "L" thing always gets me when spelling spanish words...

[amarillo]

chai latte