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OHUMP

OHUMP

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Working a tournament 11u yesterday. I am PU my partner made a few calls one coach did not aggree with and he said that is 2 you missed. My partner pulled coach aside and said if he did any more counting for him then he was done. Well they win the game and go on to play next game same field. This time I am in the field. First play of game banger at first call runner safe. Same coach comes up and says of course that's one. Bye bye. I might have wanred if we had not had the exact same situation with the same coach in the previous game but see you later.

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RichMSN
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I'm probably in the minority here, but a coach doesn't get a freebie in this situation if I'm working. If he's given the courtesy of a warning when he starts counting in the first game, the rope's go

Pete Peterson Sr
Pete Peterson Sr

Coach (to a partner) : That's two, how many more are you going to miss ? " Partner : " None that you're going to see ! " The new HC was a church mouse for the rest of the game, lol.

OHUMP
OHUMP

Yes it is. Also did not help tournamnet director kept coming over wanting us to hurry up every 10 minutes. I kept telling him it wasn't our fault he did not install a time limit in his tournament.

semper_fi_72

semper_fi_72

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Working a tournament 11u yesterday. I am PU my partner made a few calls one coach did not aggree with and he said that is 2 you missed. My partner pulled coach aside and said if he did any more counting for him then he was done. Well they win the game and go on to play next game same field. This time I am in the field. First play of game banger at first call runner safe. Same coach comes up and says of course that's one. Bye bye. I might have wanred if we had not had the exact same situation with the same coach in the previous game but see you later.

You can not carry over what happened in a previous game.

When the game is over it is over and your start with a clean slate. I don't know if the coach saying "That's one" is ejection worthy if that is all he said.

You also don't explain how he approached you or where he was.

If it was something that was worthy of a warning in a previous game, you should have warned again.

New game, New Warning.

OHUMP

OHUMP

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the approach was way over the top came storming out of the dug out and I told him judgement call safe then he said that is one. I heard afterward that this coach has been tossed like 7 times in his regular season already. This was not relayed to me until well after the game but I can see why.

UmpTTS43

UmpTTS43

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Assuming I hear this outside of a one on one conversation with skip ...

If I hear "that's two", I reply, "We don't keep umpire statistics on the field." Now it's up to them.

If I hear, "that's two you missed", whoosh.

During a one on one, skip gets a little leeway, depending on the situation. Not an automatic.

cyclonehokiece

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Good toss, although warnings don't carry over from game to game. New game=clean slate. Give him a similar amount of rope every game, he sounds like the type that will hang himself.

OHUMP

OHUMP

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yeah i know about not carrying over it I think it was just the fact that the first game was a 3 1/2 hour 25 to 19 marathon that I might have been a little thin skinned and it was the very first play of the game 3rd pitch.

OHUMP

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Yes it is. Also did not help tournamnet director kept coming over wanting us to hurry up every 10 minutes. I kept telling him it wasn't our fault he did not install a time limit in his tournament.

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carolinablue

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I understand that you don't carry anything from game to game but same coach on the same day and the warning in game 1 was really just a courtesy because you could have just tossed him. Why go through with the formalities. He was warned in an earlier game on same day, no need to warn again, He's gone.

NoCal Blue

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Working a tournament 11u yesterday. I am PU my partner made a few calls one coach did not aggree with and he said that is 2 you missed. My partner pulled coach aside and said if he did any more counting for him then he was done. Well they win the game and go on to play next game same field. This time I am in the field. First play of game banger at first call runner safe. Same coach comes up and says of course that's one. Bye bye. I might have wanred if we had not had the exact same situation with the same coach in the previous game but see you later.

You can not carry over what happened in a previous game.

When the game is over it is over and your start with a clean slate. I don't know if the coach saying "That's one" is ejection worthy if that is all he said.

You also don't explain how he approached you or where he was.

If it was something that was worthy of a warning in a previous game, you should have warned again.

New game, New Warning.

+1

You have to let it go one game to the next.

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RichMSN

RichMSN

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I'm probably in the minority here, but a coach doesn't get a freebie in this situation if I'm working. If he's given the courtesy of a warning when he starts counting in the first game, the rope's going to be a bit shorter in the second game of a DH. I look at it this way -- I certainly would include the behaviour from the previous game in an ejection report. If the coach doesn't get the message, I don't see why we should be delivering it a second time just because we've taken a 20-minute break and changed positions.

It's been ages (I can't remember, actually) since my last coach ejection, but counting is one of those things I will step on hard, early if it happens to me. I don't get to count the boneheaded coaching decisions, he doesn't get to count the number of missed calls he perceives, especially since I've never had a coach say a number higher than one that's been correct.

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mstaylor

mstaylor

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I would have to concur with Rich. If it was another day, sure, new game, clean slate. 20 minutes later after a warning, bye!

Jocko

Jocko

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HC - That's One

Me - Yes, that's one out

This exchange took place last season on a similar sitch. I gave him a kiss my a$$ look when I said it. He got the point and shut up

Pete Peterson Sr

Pete Peterson Sr

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Coach (to a partner) : That's two, how many more are you going to miss ? "

Partner : " None that you're going to see ! "

The new HC was a church mouse for the rest of the game, lol.

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Forest Ump

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I would have to concur with Rich. If it was another day, sure, new game, clean slate. 20 minutes later after a warning, bye!

Absolutely....Why would you allow him to show you up again? Send the rat packing.

Jocko

Jocko

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I would have to concur with Rich. If it was another day, sure, new game, clean slate. 20 minutes later after a warning, bye!

Absolutely....Why would you allow him to show you up again? Send the rat packing.

Would that make him a "pack rat?" B)
mstaylor

mstaylor

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I just read the OP and just caught that your partner had pulled the coach off the side to warn him. Warnings like that should be vocal and public,"That's enough!" Everybody should know he just got warned.

mstaylor

mstaylor

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to me the problem here may be a lack of consistency. Your partner should have dumped him too.

But he hasn't had an ejection in twenty years! :shrug: :notworthy:

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