Clemens Indicted for Perjury

[BrianC14]

Federal authorities have indicted Roger Clemens on charges of making false statements to Congress about his use of performance-enhancing drugs, according to two people briefed on the matter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/20/sports/baseball/20clemens.html?_r=1

Say "buh-bye" to the Hall, Roger.

[Thunderheads]

Federal authorities have indicted Roger Clemens on charges of making false statements to Congress about his use of performance-enhancing drugs, according to two people briefed on the matter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/20/sports/baseball/20clemens.html?_r=1

Say "buh-bye" to the Hall, Roger.

Good! All this douchebag had to do was tell the truth ....now, look ....dumbass:no:

[jjb]

Did you ever wonder why an American Lying to Congress is a Felony, but Congress Lying to Americans is simply "Politics"?

[yawetag]

From the small bit I heard tonight, there's no case on Clemens.

They're using the "he said / she said" argument for perjury -- it doesn't work like that. Unless they have definitive proof (the person being interviewed mentioned "a hypodermic needle with Clemen's DNA and steroid residue"), the prosecution won't have much weight.

[poppyfor3]

Does this mean Clemens is qualified to be an ESPN commentator??? Just sayin...

[Umpire in Chief]

I really don't think anything will come from it.

[dumbdumb]

The employer, MLB, deserves just what they are getting through these instances. Baseball turned a blind eye towards this years ago. You do not have a little skinny dude like Lenny Dykstra and others suddenly become a Hulk Hogan in such a short time without performance enhancing drugs. The lifting weights at the gym during the off-season excuse in that short time-span doesn't hold water. MLB and the owners, commissioner, league officials, managers, and players all chose to turn a blind eye on this problem years ago since the results produced more people at the gate to watch these users perform.

It's too bad baseball chose to overlook the fact that future records by steroid use would completely taint the achievements of all the former players who did not have the advantages of PEDs, and only chose to think of their pocketbooks. Kind of like those CEO's, like chainsaw Al and more recently the Banks, who only think of their pocketbooks. Kind of makes you wonder where the players learn it from don't you?

Oh well, both the players and MLB deserves this bad publicity that is comming from this era and the players (as usual) are taking the brunt of the hit rather than MLB itself. Of course the players started this, but MLB could have put a stop to it pronto but chose not to. Congress put the law into effect about steroids in 1988, so MLB could have acted immediately and become the leader rather than the follower.

On Roger Clemens, if you believe Clemens then Pettitte is not telling the truth. If you believe Pettitte then Clemens is not telling the truth. Of course the reason the players and people in general do these things, is exactly for the fact that all these instances are he said-she said and are very hard to prove.

Just look at Pete Rose. Many still believed his innocence as he kept denying his gambling on baseball and specifically the Reds(and maybe I should say craftily avoiding the question other times). Only when he saw a possibility of being reinstated and henceforth eligible for the Hall again did he come out and point blank admit he gambled, just like Bart and the Dowd Report said he did. An agreement was reached banning Rose from baseball for life. It declared Rose "permanently ineligible". It also gave Rose the permission to apply for reinstatement after a year. Rose craftily admits he had been treated fairly in the investigation. He did not say point blank that he had gambled on baseball and specifically the Reds. Why, because he wanted public sympathy to put pressure on people to get him back to the Hall.

Going to the Hall and more importantly, losing endorsements is why all these guys will not admit guilt. Its all about the money and prestige.

However, MLB has only to look into the mirror for not being at the front of all this controversy about steroids years ago. They could have stepped forward and nipped it in the bud early. Would this area have been handled differently if Bart had lived. It was starting to become prominent right at the beginning of his Commissionership after being promoted from NL League President. Who knows, especially since he had the fortitude to tackle the Rose situation.

What will be the final outcome for Roger? Is he being another Pete Rose and not admitting his guilt because he knows he will not go into the Hall, just like Pete Rose? Remember, had Pete not come out in his book and admitted his guilt, many people would not believe that the statement, was treated fairly in the Dowd report, was an admission although when cornered, Pete will slyly state that was treated fairly in the investigation was his admission for everything all along. We shall see.

Edited August 22, 2010 by dumbdumb

[Umpire in Chief]

I agree theat MLB has a huge roll in this.

[BrianC14]

I agree theat MLB has a huge roll in this.

MLB has been tarnished ever since they gave a "temporary appointment" to an owner to be Commissioner.

The fox has been guarding the hen house ever since.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Did you ever wonder why an American Lying to Congress is a Felony, but Congress Lying to Americans is simply "Politics"?

Did you ever wonder why the criminal justice system requires absolute proof to make a finding, yet it freely accepts someone's testimony of fact as long as they swear to God that it's true?

[Dragon29]

Of course the players started this, but MLB could have put a stop to it pronto but chose not to.

You really think some player came up with the idea to use PEDs? I don't think so. The idea came from someone with knowledge of what benefits could be gained from using them; someone with a medical background - someone like a team trainer.

Yes, once it became known what they are and how they work, the players could choose whether or not they wanted to use them, but I have to believe the origin was some 'helpful' trainer trying to help an athlete improve or trying to get an athlete back into the game faster.

"Here, take this and you'll be better" or "Here, take this and your injury will heal faster."

And, who do the trainers work for? The teams. The owners. Baseball.