Infield Fly Rule Question

[Thunderheads]

I know that it's proper to call "infield fly IF FAIR" .....on a ball close to the line ...however, ....if the ball is NOT close to the line, ...is it really necessary to call IFF if fair ??

Thanks ......

[mazzamouth]

If there is no Fair or Foul decision to be made then you do not need to say "If fair"

[Thunderheads]

If there is no Fair or Foul decision to be made then you do not need to say "If fair"

IFF is in effect, ....pop up first base side between the line and the dugout, ..no chance of it being fair, but also obvious its foul....so my question is ....

Any reason to say 'anything' on this ..... by your answer, it's 'no' ...

[semper_fi_72]

If there is no chance it can be fair, there is no IFF.

Say nothing.

It must be Fair for IFF to be in effect.

[Umpy]

I had a coach the other day asking me an Infield Fly question that had apparently come up in his previous game. It was a nice clean, but uncaught infield fly, landed a few feet from the rubber on a dirt infield, proceeded to roll untouched all the way foul. I guess their umpire had ruled it was still an out. It made me consider perhaps we should say IF FAIR on all infield flies.

[noumpere]

I had a coach the other day asking me an Infield Fly question that had apparently come up in his previous game. It was a nice clean, but uncaught infield fly, landed a few feet from the rubber on a dirt infield, proceeded to roll untouched all the way foul. I guess their umpire had ruled it was still an out. It made me consider perhaps we should say IF FAIR on all infield flies.

Whether or not you say the if fair part it still applies so that play is just a foul ball even if the umpire didnt say the if fair.

[Thunderheads]

I had a coach the other day asking me an Infield Fly question that had apparently come up in his previous game. It was a nice clean, but uncaught infield fly, landed a few feet from the rubber on a dirt infield, proceeded to roll untouched all the way foul. I guess their umpire had ruled it was still an out. It made me consider perhaps we should say IF FAIR on all infield flies.

Whether or not you say the if fair part it still applies so that play is just a foul ball even if the umpire didnt say the if fair.

OK, ...stupid time...

So, in the scenario above .... and the INFIELD FLY BATTERS OUT was called.....it goes untouched and goes foul, ...then you say, ... foul ball, batter, you're still up, and not out?

Sounds dumb and awkward, but I guess that would be correct

[JaxRolo]

I had a coach the other day asking me an Infield Fly question that had apparently come up in his previous game. It was a nice clean, but uncaught infield fly, landed a few feet from the rubber on a dirt infield, proceeded to roll untouched all the way foul. I guess their umpire had ruled it was still an out. It made me consider perhaps we should say IF FAIR on all infield flies.

Whether or not you say the if fair part it still applies so that play is just a foul ball even if the umpire didnt say the if fair.

OK, ...stupid time...

So, in the scenario above .... and the INFIELD FLY BATTERS OUT was called.....it goes untouched and goes foul, ...then you say, ... foul ball, batter, you're still up, and not out?

Sounds dumb and awkward, but I guess that would be correct

After saying "INFIELD FLY BATTERS OUT" and then the ball goes foul I would just say "FOUL" and give the count.

[Thunderheads]

I had a coach the other day asking me an Infield Fly question that had apparently come up in his previous game. It was a nice clean, but uncaught infield fly, landed a few feet from the rubber on a dirt infield, proceeded to roll untouched all the way foul. I guess their umpire had ruled it was still an out. It made me consider perhaps we should say IF FAIR on all infield flies.

Whether or not you say the if fair part it still applies so that play is just a foul ball even if the umpire didnt say the if fair.

OK, ...stupid time...

So, in the scenario above .... and the INFIELD FLY BATTERS OUT was called.....it goes untouched and goes foul, ...then you say, ... foul ball, batter, you're still up, and not out?

Sounds dumb and awkward, but I guess that would be correct

After saying "INFIELD FLY BATTERS OUT" and then the ball goes foul I would just say "FOUL" and give the count.

I guess so! :beerbang

[semper_fi_72]

I once had a ball on the 1B line.

In field fly if fair.

Ball lands in fair ground between F1 and F2.

I yell, batters out.

Ball bounce foul and I realize neither on them touched it.

I then say foul, ball was not touched.

Batter back in the box.

Not a complaint from anyone.

[Thunderheads]

I once had a ball on the 1B line.

In field fly if fair.

Ball lands in fair ground between F1 and F2.

I yell, batters out.

Ball bounce foul and I realize neither on them touched it.

I then say foul, ball was not touched.

Batter back in the box.

Not a complaint from anyone.

fair enough ......it happens I guess!:Cool2:

[yawetag]

Am I the only one that says "Infield Fly" and doesn't add "Batter's out" ?

[1dumbquestion]

Am I the only one that says "Infield Fly" and doesn't add "Batter's out" ?

maybe so... but then again with the level of ball I often do the words "infield fly" alone may not be enough for a coach/player to know that the batter's out. 1

[Dragon29]

Am I the only one that says "Infield Fly" and doesn't add "Batter's out" ?

Yes, you are.

Feeling lonely?

[mstaylor]

On the one between line and dugout may still come fair. Not likely to be an IFF because of the difficulty getting there but it could still be fair.

[Cajuncubsfan]

Am I the only one that says "Infield Fly" and doesn't add "Batter's out" ?

Yes Sir you are, I'm in the camp of "Point foul, say foul, turn back to the plate and the count" LOL

[yawetag]

Am I the only one that says "Infield Fly" and doesn't add "Batter's out" ?

Yes Sir you are, I'm in the camp of "Point foul, say foul, turn back to the plate and the count" LOL

I meant on a typical IFF, not one that goes foul. Towering fly to F6 (or even between F5 and F1), I just say "Infield fly!" If it's near the line, I'll add "if fair," but never say "Batter's out." Never had one hit fair and roll foul, but I suppose I'd just add "Foul" when appropriate.

[Thunderheads]

My partner and I were discussing this last night ...this thread, ...and sure enough ......... second inning, .... IFF right on the first base line :rolleyes:

[JaxRolo]

My partner and I were discussing this last night ...this thread, ...and sure enough ......... second inning, .... IFF right on the first base line

So how did you call it?

[Thunderheads]

My partner and I were discussing this last night ...this thread, ...and sure enough ......... second inning, .... IFF right on the first base line

So how did you call it?

Infield fly if fair .....

No big deal, ...it's just funny, everything my partner and I discuss, ...it happens in the game!:rolleyes:

[txump81]

I'm with Andrew. My typical call is "Infield Fly". Pause and wait. Once the ball is touched/comes to rest, declare the result. YMMV.

[Mr Umpire]

Am I the only one that says "Infield Fly" and doesn't add "Batter's out" ?

Yes. When I call it, if it is obviously going to be fair, I add "Batter's out". If not, I add "If fair". But, no matter what, I don't just say "Infield Fly". I don't know the reasoning for saying all of it. Other than, to make sure they heard the call and know why the results are if something comes up during the play. Otherwise, it is just a mechanic I learned and continue to use.

[yawetag]

I call it, if it is obviously going to be fair, I add "Batter's out". If not, I add "If fair". But, no matter what, I don't just say "Infield Fly". I don't know the reasoning for saying all of it. Other than, to make sure they heard the call and know why the results are if something comes up during the play. Otherwise, it is just a mechanic I learned and continue to use.

When I call a runner out, I don't say "Tag was there! Runner's out!" or "Ball was caught and fielder showed voluntary release. Batter's out!" or "Foul! Ball first landed in foul territory on a fly ball pas the bags!"

I don't think I need to explain that the batter's out when I call infield fly; it's the rule. If the coach and players don't understand what happens on an IFF, that's their fault.

[Jeff C.]

I'm with Andrew. I don't say "Batter is out" . I do say "if fair" when it's next to a foul line.

[Thunderheads]

HOW IS IT TAUGHT ?????