DerekGDS

Well since the cat is out of the bag I may as well address this now, instead of in a few days. I have a PM chain with @AaronK. As Nick said, I bought the site a while back but this was personal and it is not owned by Gerry Davis Sports. Yes, I had plans but those were put on the back burner. But a few months ago we began upgrading the sites infrastructure and underlying code as we're moving it to a more modern stack. (well not me but this work is contracted) Given this is outside of my normal job, it hasn't been the highest priority and I was waiting for a detailed update on where things were at before I chimed in and updated AaronK. The site will remain simple, with the same existing resources but will be easier to maintain, contribute to and yes, may have some form of advertising to cover the costs. My plan was to make the site in a way so it could be contributed to by a select group of individuals (not a wiki) and expand the resources but still keep it topical and accurate. With that being said, if anyone is interest in volunteering or has ideas on how to make that happen I am all ears. As to what is Three Rivers Collective - simple. It is the shell company that holds the importer of record for Gerry Davis Sports.

Had to do a double take there. Memorial Day sales apparently!

This is a hard one... i want to emphasis that nothing can guarantee 100% protection from injury or concussion. There are far too many factors including biological, neurologic, genetics, etc. On paper, of the three above, #3 offers the most protection but it may not be the best for each individual. They will all be protective, much more so then all of the cheap pads on the market with there cushion foams but it's really going to come down to preferences, feel and weight for a lot of folks. It just makes it easy to either have no logo, the Davis logo or swap something else you want on there. Yes, it will but this specific design will should fit a lot of different frames. Dyna-Lite, Nike Ti, Adidas, Davis Trace, +POS ZRO-G, etc. We're working on verifying the fitment for various frames. The same concept will be brought to a universal design that should fit most traditional wire frame designs it's just a few months down the road.

A sneak peek since I feel like we're getting down the home stretch here. The pads are a two part system. Covers/socks (outer) Cores/padding (inner) Initially, the cover will only be offered in black/black. The front is a fabric covered molded EVA foam and towards the face is a synthetic suede. Eventually, these will be offered in a multitude of color options and fabrics choices. The concept being simply remove the core, and swap it into a different cover based on your preference/style that day. Have a bunch of covers and a couple of cores depending on how much you like to switch it up. The front strap has loop so you can stick on your favorite Wilson yellow 'W' patch. There are plans right now for 3 cores. Only one will be released initially which will be vaguely labeled as #2 for now. All of this is still subject to change a bit. #1 - This core will most closely resemble the Wilson Memory Foam pads but are not made purely of a memory foam. It has a 1mm HDPE plate and then is comprised of a 3 layer laminate including two types of EVA foam and memory foam towards the face. #2 - This core is a compromise on performance and weight using multiple materials include D3O, our cross-linked foam and EVA. Like #1 it also includes 1mm HDPE plates and is die cut to reduce weight. #3 - This core is the most dense and like #2 will be die cut to reduce weight as much as possible. It again is a laminate that includes D3O, different density memory foams. For TW folks who like placing bricks on their face, this might be the go to.

I appreciate that but this community and the larger community in general have helped immensely in the direction, feedback and in many cases with product concepts. @wolfe_man was instrumental with design feedback on our earliest DX Mk1 and Apex project and donated a ton of time to help us iterate on the initial concepts. @MadMax has been a test dummy, provided design thoughts, feedback and the upcoming mask pad concept is his idea. @concertman1971 helped immensely field testing the DX Enduro D3O and Mirage 12. He is probably also responsible for most of the sales to SoCal for them. Everyone else who has chimed in with feedback and or helped with field testing including @Razzer, @tpatience, @spiffdawg7. Thank you. If I forgot you, my apologies but I appreciate you as well.

It's also worth noting that the cheaper one is made from ABS. ABS has lower impact resistance, is more brittle and does not disperse/spread energy nearly as well as polycarbonate.

Past two days have been a slog for sure!

Realistically I think we're a few months away before we launch the first options and early Q4 2025 before we have a myriad of options. You wouldn't want them as they are now but we're iterating and testing every couple of weeks to get them to the point where everyone who purchases them is hopefully very happy with the performance and package.

Working on it!

@cgroom i got you.

Let's not forget Illinois and Wisconsin.

Good news for all the lovers of Navy 🫠

When the pads are released - anyone who purchased the frame only will be offered them at a discounted rate equal to the price as if bundled plus free shipping. There is no real penetration. This is a better angle.

@concertman1971 has used the MAG pads without issue. They likely will not be available for several months. The design and molds are largely complete but we're still doing small tweaks and testing the internals. The pads will operate as a two-part system meaning you can change the internals based on your preferences.

We plan on offering every frame we make as is. Obviously when we finish developing our pads we will offer them bundled (and if you purchase before we offer pads and want them we’ll offer them discounted and free shipping for folks who do want to pick them up) but have no plans on forcing it. Use what pads and harness you want/like!

Well it’s got me thinking about interior front drop pockets for ours now. Just not sure how well that’d actually work not being a full zip.

Late to the party but this is absolutely correct. You'll commonly see this on items that are meant to be customized or are commonly customized usually bags and jackets.

I really like the forward facing, decorative ball bag!

This is another one where I get it, but I also think it's all dependent on the context. A lot of what @jimurrayalterego covered. Skin conditions/considerations Climate considerations Is it padded/protective What that being said, I'm pretty much in hardcore agreement on #NoJacketsOnPlate.

I personally think this can be fine untucked but it all comes down to fit and finish...

Lies. Those hands haven’t seen a day of manual labor.

The cover can absolutely make a difference in hand feel. For example if I wrapped something like TW zorbium in a lightweight mesh and the exact same inside something like a 3D mesh they would feel completely different. The 3D mesh would offer a subtile soft, padded feel due to its multiple thick layers and the lightweight mesh wouldn't change the feel much, if at all.

We can achieve that low bar and go a few higher with some modularity in the design...