DerekGDS

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Good news for all the lovers of Navy 🫠

When the pads are released - anyone who purchased the frame only will be offered them at a discounted rate equal to the price as if bundled plus free shipping. There is no real penetration. This is a better angle.

@concertman1971 has used the MAG pads without issue. They likely will not be available for several months. The design and molds are largely complete but we're still doing small tweaks and testing the internals. The pads will operate as a two-part system meaning you can change the internals based on your preferences.

We plan on offering every frame we make as is. Obviously when we finish developing our pads we will offer them bundled (and if you purchase before we offer pads and want them we’ll offer them discounted and free shipping for folks who do want to pick them up) but have no plans on forcing it. Use what pads and harness you want/like!

Well it’s got me thinking about interior front drop pockets for ours now. Just not sure how well that’d actually work not being a full zip.

Late to the party but this is absolutely correct. You'll commonly see this on items that are meant to be customized or are commonly customized usually bags and jackets.

I really like the forward facing, decorative ball bag!

This is another one where I get it, but I also think it's all dependent on the context. A lot of what @jimurrayalterego covered. Skin conditions/considerations Climate considerations Is it padded/protective What that being said, I'm pretty much in hardcore agreement on #NoJacketsOnPlate.

I personally think this can be fine untucked but it all comes down to fit and finish...

Lies. Those hands haven’t seen a day of manual labor.

The cover can absolutely make a difference in hand feel. For example if I wrapped something like TW zorbium in a lightweight mesh and the exact same inside something like a 3D mesh they would feel completely different. The 3D mesh would offer a subtile soft, padded feel due to its multiple thick layers and the lightweight mesh wouldn't change the feel much, if at all.

We can achieve that low bar and go a few higher with some modularity in the design...

Yes that is correct. Sorry just didn’t want to make it even easier for bots to crawl and spam me. I do believe so @concertman1971 was using those with the frame. Most pads besides the Belgards should fit. Yes - the overall concept is completed but still working through testing the internals.

Limited quantities expected to be available in early-mid April with additional units expected in late April-mid May. It will be frame only. There is no presale planned but if there is interest in purchasing one... anyone can email me derek@ and when that product is a few days away from public release I'll send over a pre-order link.

I realize I am repeating myself from another thread so my apologies but... The All-Star FM25, +POS (original), Honig's (original) and GR8 Call pads all share the exact same internals and in some cases exterior textiles.

That is because the original +POS, GR8 Call and Honig's (not sure about any of the new ones if they have any) and the All-Star FM25 pads all have the exact same internals. Also, thanks for the kind words!

Extremely slow like minute page loads sometimes - but it doesn't help that I've been on a more unstable connection lately.

I don't have the frame at the moment but @MadMax or @concertman1971 might be able to help answer that one.

Verdict: Poorly

I’ll follow up on this with some photos.

The GR8 Call leathers and air mesh pads are also the “Honig’s” pads which basically have the same internals as the All-Star FM25 pads. You may be noticing a trend here all originating from when Dick Honig sold the company years ago.

Hollow-steel, 16.8oz. It’s the Honig’s K4 frame.

The hope is early May, but it’s about 50/50 the production will line up with when the next container sails. 🤞