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Gerry Davis 94X V1 vs Smitty Performance Poly Spandex Pants
DerekGDS replied to GoAn42's topic in Umpire Equipment
Several of our product lines are transitioning to reflect fabric styles or features. For over a decade, 94X has served as the product code for our original pants, and due to its frequent searches, we've chosen to maintain its consistency. I admit that finding details product lines can be challenging unless you're directly on the product page. This is an area we definitely need to improve on the site among others. They have excelled in managing relationships across various levels, including states and conferences. While I'm not certain of the exact count, they have effectively monopolized partnerships with numerous high school associations, including those in Florida, Arkansas, Michigan, among others and good for them. They capitalized on the failures of competitors like Honig's, Gerry Davis Sports, and Cliff Keen over the last ten years. Without delving too deeply into this topic, it's worth noting that states opting for a single master license agreement certainly do so for their own advantage rather than for the benefit of their officials. -
A decade ago, and as recently as 3-4 years past, our manufacturing capabilities were quite restricted. This limitation meant that all of our offerings, were marketed under the Wilson or Diamond labels. Our manufacturing capabilities, however, has seen substantial growth in the past few years and our protective equipment will now be manufactured by us. Despite this progress, we do have certain restrictions that set us apart from larger manufacturers like Force3, All-Star, Wilson, etc. We operate on a much smaller scale and don't play in the sporting goods category and upfront costs play a large role in our decision making. For instance, rather than using injection molding for ABS parts or plates, we opt for die cutting. This method may not produce the most aesthetically pleasing or sleek results, but it enables us to offer more affordable products in smaller quantities. Getting out of the traditional box and exploring what can/cannot be done with 3D printing as well. The products we are currently developing may not be groundbreaking or particularly eye-catching to everyone, but I am confident in their functionality and pricing. Our focus has been on designing materials and products that are a) lightweight and b) have a low profile. While they may not be flawless (they aren't, but nothing is), this is precisely the reason we are initiating the Field Testing Program. This program will allow us to gather valuable feedback, making it possible to continually refine and enhance. Our goal is to make seasonal changes, as necessary. The one great thing about being small means we should be able to move a little bit quicker. I cannot spill the beans on everything, but I am confident that our material choices and effort on thermal aspects moving into 2025 will bring significant upgrades to the yet unreleased products as well. Many of these features remain in discussion, particularly the segmented plates, hooks, and harness. With a fresh perspective, this CP could evolve into a good product.
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My youth... It's amazing how much we pack into the only 4 livable months we get annually. (if you hate winter as much as I do) Not to mention all of the smaller venues like Shank Hall, The Rave/Eagles Club, etc. that host some great artist.
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Chest Protector Porn (PHOTOS & Brief Description Only)
DerekGDS replied to Cavalier1948's topic in Umpire Equipment
I think this is the most polite thing I have ever heard about the DaviShield. The product was significantly flawed, a fact I will openly acknowledge. We've learned our lessons from it and can assure you that we will not replicate the shortcomings of DaviShield. -
Chest Protector Porn (PHOTOS & Brief Description Only)
DerekGDS replied to Cavalier1948's topic in Umpire Equipment
Bit of a tease... currently rare although not as highly coveted as the DaviShield 🫠, and comes in just over 2 lbs with maximum pad thickness of about 15mm. -
I'm excited to share some news about an upcoming initiative set to launch in mid-March: the Davis Prototype Field Testing Program (DPFTP). I'm looking for UE members who may have interest in the program. The DPFTP is designed to be a vital instrument for us to directly engage with you, leveraging your feedback and insights to refine our product development efforts and bring forward innovative, thoughtfully engineered products. The program will focus on two main categories: apparel and accessories, and protective equipment. Here’s a brief overview to help you decide if this opportunity sparks your interest. Testing Process Participants who are involved in the program will be selected based on specific criteria and demographics to ensure a wide range of insights. We'll consider your officiating experience, officiating frequency, size, and location, aiming to match you with tests that suit your profile. Participation is voluntary, allowing you to opt for tests that interest you. Test durations vary, from brief fit assessments to extensive wear trials lasting from two weeks up to six months, tailored to the product being evaluated. Basic Requirements A valid email address. Proficiency in English. Residency in the continental United States. Age 18 or older. Willingness to test both prototype and production products as intended. Ability to provide detailed, constructive feedback by set deadlines. Commitment to adhere to specific testing instructions. Without giving too much away publicly, at this time we have 4 products in the hard good space and a number of apparel products we're interested in getting long-term feedback on. Please note, the form below serves as an expression of interest, not an application to join the program. At this point we're looking to gauge the level of interest and identify individuals who may be good matches for upcoming tests. We'll reach out to potential candidates who meet our criteria by mid-March with more details on how to apply. I'm happy to answer what questions I can publicly if anyone would like some more information or feel free DM or email me directly derek [at] gerrydavis.com with any questions. If you're interested, you can fill out the interest form. A big thanks to @Umpire in Chief for allowing us to gauge interest from the UE community.
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Ultimately, the consensus seems to be about understanding your market, as @wolfe_man thoroughly explained and @johnnyg08 briefly touched upon. If you're unsure, conducting market research is essential. Consider taking a cue from @Razzer, who plans to test his products through a soft launch to gain some traction. Remember, navigating this market is neither simple nor straightforward; umpires are a challenging market and they encompasses a broad spectrum of shopper profiles and values. I strongly recommend dedicating some time to understand it better.
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@Umpiresrock74 Keep in mind that market competition is inevitable. This shouldn't deter you, but rather encourage you to identify how and where you can carve out your niche. I assure you, UL and you are not alone in exploring opportunities in hard goods and replacement padding.
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Nailed it. I'll just emphasize on what was just said. The umpire community mostly operates on word of mouth, and few are willing to be the first to try something until it has been endorsed by their peers. UE is a great example of exactly that. Most people tend to either spend the minimum and aim to make it last as long as they can, or spend the least amount possible and regularly replace it.
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I'd like to point out that there's a significant cost distinction between independently conducting tests for standards such as NOCSAE ND200 (Commotio Cordis) and completing the entire certification process. The two price points don't even come close to one another.
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Gerry Davis 94X V1 vs Smitty Performance Poly Spandex Pants
DerekGDS replied to GoAn42's topic in Umpire Equipment
We have revamped the HG line up as well. It is largely getting the same treatment as Charcoal pants but based on the last 3 years or so of sales data HG is on a steady decline. Much of the HG line up should be fully released in the next week or so as well but sizing may be limited. We weren't willing to take a huge gamble with all of the SKU variations. We'll be offering the newer Smitty stuff as well but it will all be special order. We've gotten much better. I'll be the first to admit our policies, support, etc. were terrible for quite sometime and we cleaned house a bit to make more positive changes in our attitude towards customers and the whole experience in shopping with us. I cannot argue with that. They are a very nice pant as well. -
Gerry Davis 94X V1 vs Smitty Performance Poly Spandex Pants
DerekGDS replied to GoAn42's topic in Umpire Equipment
Realistically, early April so late to the line up this year. There may be a slim chance of some trickling in mid-late March. Happy to be here and contribute to the conversations where I can! -
Gerry Davis 94X V1 vs Smitty Performance Poly Spandex Pants
DerekGDS replied to GoAn42's topic in Umpire Equipment
I might as well jump in here. Smitty's: Poly/Spandex 94X V1: 300x300 100% Polyester Our original (Classic) cut on the 94X V1 is what you'd expect from being designed over a decade ago. Wide. We've revamped our whole pant line up for 2024, some of which isn't released yet. 94X V2: A refresh, offered in 3 different fits. Classic, Straight and Tapered (Base, flat front only on tapered) Core Lightweight: 150x150 Polyester. Available in straight fit, flat front only. BFX Pro: Replaces the MLB Pro which is more similar to the Smitty pant in terms of fabric. This will be a 100% polyester pant but it uses a proprietary yarn to mimic Spandex while dying better and fading slower in the sun. It's MSRP is will be well above the Smitty pant though. Will be available in straight fit. Pleated or flat front.
