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Like I tell the catchers "Don't toss me the ball, hand it to me. There's a reason I ump and don't play."

Fair point @beerguy55. @noumpere said what I was thinking (though not well articulating).

An association run by coaches? Sounds like the league I went over to for their league championship (only time I went there all year) and the Coach was very put off when I asked him to put his bucket inside the dugout. Did I mention he was the league UIC? 😜

Agreed AND I'm not calling CI/CO for the glove sneaking out over the point of the plate.

Me too (as well as when I'm not even behind the plate at 10U, lol) but I do LL so I thought that was just an age thing. 😀

100% Not dissuading you from that at all brother.

Our association explicitly tells us not to do that, because by rule, you have to say "play" to make the ball live again. It's the same as calling "time." I've been trained to minimize use of this as well (though not that you have to say "play" after the right palm). I'm focusing on vocalizing "balk" / "illegal pitch" to teach the pitcher self restraint of waiting for the batter to be ready.

This doesn't make much sense to me. What did they do with the TWO guys on first base? We know one of them is out (lead I'm assuming unless the throw beat the BR) and we know we have the out at home on the force. My best guess is they called IFF after the fact. BR is out so force is off. R3 advanced at his own peril and was never tagged. Score that run. R1 was unforced so is safe at 1B. Generally speaking, my LL District UIC has said calling it after the fact can be the right call (and has done it himself). IFF at 10u is one of the scarier calls to have to decide in the moment (no jinx for my 9s All Star Championship game tonight 😬)

Harrison is a freaking magician

I agree with this. This all depends on who A10 was announced as replacing.

Kentucky says "Oh yeah? Watch this." fwiw, in my local t-ball (4-5 yr olds) every kid got a single (even on the 0.00000000000000000001% of the time they were putout) and the last kid up each inning got a home run. Biggest game managment issue I had as manager was getting the batting order rotation right so every kid got his home run turn (3 inning games, 13 or 14 players (can't remember)). Took me a bit to clue into the issue - I was helpfully informed though No score was kept, no playoffs or championships.

Next play! We got you brother.

taking a tangent... LL 10U All Star game ~5 years ago. I was PU and sweating chlorophyll. BU's years of experience >75% my age. Last out of the game, HT down by 1, banger at 1st, crowd erupts, OHC calls time to talk with BU. I expected BU to conference and I say to the fence "relax, there's a process". OHC and BU finish, OHC marches back to his dugout unhappy. I hightail it out of there thinking "welp, I'll never do that again". lol

Woe be the ump you vocalizes "FAIR!" ... and all play comes to a stop. Said ump will only do it once though. 😉

This addresses end of the game. You could analogize it to the 5 run rule with less than 2 outs I suppose. Preventive umpiring can come into heavy play here as well. Failing that, I'm still going with "Coach, isn't the real question vanilla or chocolate?"

^^^^ This has my vote for most ironic, but most true, post of the year Had this the other night in 10U. R3 missed home by a mile on a double (so no action). Catcher even saw it - gave me that sequence: look at me, look at home, look at me. I no sold it. They never appealed. Two plays later? Runner landed square on home plate in a late tag situation. Dugout "APPEAL APPEAL" (at least they didn't call time first ) 100%. As a coach, I'd have my guys Run Run Run while the Defense was trying to get back to tag the missed / left early base.

Hey @Umpire in Chief site is broken. I can only like this once.

Similar story: first game of LL AAA (anything close to real baseball; our local AA is station to station). Kid I had coached since T-ball hits a sweet double... and goes headfirst into 2nd base. 🤦‍♂️

In OBR, you don't ask on a strike/swing, but you ask on a ball/no swing. You come to me, I'll give you what I have. If there is a right to an appeal, the appeal should be handled honestly. IMO, YMMV. Yeah, it was apparent PU was going to BU out of obligation but managing to the "no swing" outcome. Not a good look. Ha!

I need to do this more. After all year working with RPV* I can do this now. Hope they’re ready. 😁 Better pregame it! I did this last night (not on a bunt but normal check swing). Check swing... Did he go? Probably not but I guess he could have. Hey! Let's ask Nick. "Did he go?!?" "No he did not" "The count is 3 balls no strikes" Felt great.

Son's HS playoff game last Saturday, after getting an early successful appeal from PU in A, the catcher went back to the well ~5 more times - yep, even when in C. PU went to him but led BU with a little safe sign flick down near his belt line. Not as subtle as it could have been but subtle enough that I didn't hear anyone say anything. I saw it twice. Add: Catcher was awesome. 100% constant hustle and aware. Called the game (not the coach). Tagging kids on possible U3K, THEN going for the appeal. Firing the ball back to the pitchers (D1 commits including Texas) just as hard as it was coming in (not really but felt like it, y'know). Kids' nickname had to be "Sparky".

Agreed (at most). R3 touch home at least. 5 runs is a severe limitation that's changed the game already and I've only seen it in LL 10U and lower and Fall ball 12U and lower. Both clearly Rec ball. DHC that's going to get picky on that should be worried about other things like A) snacks after the game and B) not giving up 5 runs.

My uneducated $0.02: Score 2. Play end in a dead ball, same as a home run. The results of the play count. Term that comes to mind for me is a "baby home run". Also, wanted a reason to pull this one out since it feels applicable.

I think you have it wrong. If the catcher boots the ball and it deflects off either the umpire or batter it’s dead and runners return TOP in OBR. NCAA might want the same thing but they didn’t exactly copy the OBR rule. Agreed. I was solely referring to the NCAA rule as posted by Mr. S.A. I came back to OBR a minute later. Our posts passed each other like ships in the night.