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Absolutely, that's what they're teaching! The only time a catcher's helmet/mask comes off is when the baseball goes off the bat straight up in the air where they can make a play on it. Otherwise, it stays on.

100 % agree! Hope it didn't seem like I was justifying anything. Perfect angle to see this........thank you local sports news!

I posted on this play in the Free For All section. My best guess is that U1 (who rotated to the plate here) got so amped up to make a big OBS call in a State game, he rushed the call and did not "pause, read, and react", to get the MC. You can see him almost giving the old DDB signal before contact even occurs. After he rushed, he died with his premature call on the field and stuck with it, perhaps knowing instantly he missed the MC. Furthermore, in this particular play, if there was no MC, there was no reason to make the award like he did, because the runner DOES touch the plate and score after the collision. He was signaling the run scored before the runner touches, voiding any possibility for the defense to appeal if for some reason he fails to do so.

I absolutely agree with that. They SHOULD have gotten together and had an extensive conversation about this. This was a 4-man crew. There should have been a lot of eyes (8) seeing this play considering there were no trailing runners. SOMEONE had to have additional information that U1 did not have since he blocked himself off from getting a good look by not reaching all the way to third base line extended to start. This is probably the most disappointing aspect of this play; that during a 4-minute delay so that the defense could replace their catcher, nowhere on the video does it show the umpires get together and nail this thing out. and get the call right. If anybody judged MC (which is hard to think nobody wouldn't have), the calling umpire goes to the offensive coach (before changing the call) and states, "I have additional information that there was MC on the collision. By rule, your runner is out and ejected from the ballgame. By rule, because MC is umpire's judgement, you can NOT argue this call." Then, I would probably signal towards the dugout and signal the OUT call. If there is any further argument from the OC, he risks his verbal and written warnings, restriction to the dugout, and/or ejection.

This was a 4-man crew. U2 went out on the trouble ball, and the rotation by PU would reverted back to 3-man to third. So, yes, he was VERY late on this rotation considering it was a clean 'for sure' extra-base hit over the CF's head.

It came from the OP. Same angle, I just couldn't post the video off the stream page, so used the twitter link which was the same on the video board.

In the OP video, you can see U1 never fully rotated to a third base line extended spot. Just got within the vicinity. He MAY have been able to make the call if in the right spot.

I like the NCAA input on these types of plays. Without citation, it basically says the runner MUST avoid an avoidable collision. That puts it into the hands of the runner to avoid this type of train wreck IF possible. Which, we all seem to agree the runner came back into the catcher in this OP. Therefore, the runner has four options: 1) Stop and give himself up (and hope OBS would be called) (In this video it was being called) 2) Turn around and retreat to previous base 3) Go around the fielder making a play on the ball, or 4) Perform a legal slide If the runner does none of these four and the result is a collision like in the OP, there's warrant for an ejection. Also, what's not in the link, after the collision, the runner pops right up, shows no remorse for what just occurred, and pumps his fist and exchanges high fives with teammates.

Turned out to be huge. The scoring team won, 3-2.

With U1 rotated (4-man crew), but not third base line extended, I can see how he never saw the runner deviate back into the catcher. I've got a forceful blow to the head though, incidental or not, MC and ejection.

This happened last night at the Iowa State High School Baseball Tournament? Whatcha got? Never mind that every post online called it catcher's interference, ha. Runner was ruled safe on the play. Anybody see enough cause to warrant a malicious contact call? https://twitter.com/Jaxen563/status/1021569950882955266?s=03

My judgement to the shoulder position is: If I can read the script all the way across his chest, he's good. If something is chopped off, I tell the catcher to go tell his pitcher to straighten up towards me so I don't have to call it. In the OP, I agree in the frustrations. We've been told how many times in how many videos (including the test!) to call this, and then on the biggest stage of college baseball it is ignored.

I'm curious to see what the accepted time between games for a double-header is around the different associations and areas of the country. Working college, I know it may take a little more time to dress the field and warm-up starting pitchers. Still, most are ready to go within 30 minutes. But, during the high school season (Iowa summer ball), I've been running into coaches saying they need 40-50 minutes between games. I don't like to hark about larger paychecks, but this has definitely increased the time commitment and dead time between games.

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IN the case of coaches' interference with the runner rounding third, that question is almost exactly what was on the NCAA exam in 2017. The NCAA ruling it IS interference, the runner is declared out immediately, and ball remains live. The rationale is because the runner slipped and then collided with the coach, the coach aided in stopping the runners' momentum. It need not be intentional to be interference. NFHS may see it a little different. But, the coaches' box is not a sanctuary. In my judgement, he needs no avoid interference with HIS runner just as he needs to avoid it with any fielder.

May be stretching, but how about 8-5 (l) under When runners are out?: "The individual attempts to score when the batter interferes with the play at home plate provided two are not already out." I know this is a reference to R3 stealing home, but, if the follow thru hindered to the extent that perhaps his glove went flying or cracks the C in the back of the head, I believe this applies in the modified case that the infield was drawn in and the ball hit traveled directly to F4 with the intent to come to the plate with the baseball. If you do pull the trigger on INT, I think you bang the batter-runner out and put R3 back on third. Call R3 out and prepare for armageddon from the OHC.

Totally agree with you on liking FED and new OBR standards!

So in this play, we need to examine the hypotheticals. If the runner had deviated his path to avoid any possible collision because the catcher had been blocking the plate illegally (prior to ball in dirt circle or 60 feet) do you call the obstruction then? If the answer to that is, YES, how is this a legal play as the questions asks? I believe in that case you would have to call obstruction because the plate was blocked and in no way can we say the "act of fielding" took the catcher into the baseline - He was already there.

Agreed! The throw took him away from the direction of home plate. The NCAA wants "the act of fielding" to take the catcher towards the base path in order for it to be a legal play. If the answer is "True", they just complicated matters even more so.

First, thank you NCAA for not flooding the exam with batting out of order questions. With that said.....let's go over Question # 44: The current batting line-up is Abel, Baker, Charles, Daniel, Edward. Charles, who had batted leadoff the entire season, is put in the third position for this game. Charles, expecting to lead off, bats first (not realizing he is listed third) and strikes out. Baker comes to bat next and doubles. The home team head coach appeals that Baker batted out of order. · a. o Rule Baker out and bring Daniel up to bat. · b. o Rule Baker out and remove him from 2B and bring Charles up to bat again. · c. o Rule Daniel out, remove Baker from 2B and bring Edward up to bat. · d. o Do nothing as this is legal. Baker is the second batter on the line-up card and the second batter up in the game. I initially thought it was legal. However, I changed it to ruling Baker out and bring Daniel up to bat (Answer on here). Anyone agree/disagree?

http://ncaabaseball.arbitersports.com/front/105039/Video/player/13995/17041

I ran into the same problem. All the videos/slides have a locked icon on them.

The bottom pic from Jimurray is from the NCAA video on 3/21/17. That particular video proclaims the play 100% legal on the catcher's part and mirrors the Contreras act identically. So, NCAA, perfectly legal to block plate as they are in act of fielding the ball, whether the ball takes them into the path of the runner, or not.

I wore charcoal Nike golf pants all this past summer and the only comments I got on them were how good they looked. They have a flat front, but were perfect base pants for the hot/humid days in late June/early July.

The Smitty XL bags, like blue32 recommends, have much smaller inner pockets and do not get in the way. I only use them for my indicator on occasion and leave my brush in the main compartment. Great size, too. I had as many as nine baseballs in my 2 bags this past weekend working a college fall game.