JSam21

Quick peek around. Call time and if it works with your rotation (3 or 4 umpire system) take it yourself to the base coach.

1) Batter has to be alert to the pitcher before the motion to deliver can begin. 2) Once every one is in their positions and ready to go, that's when we call play. There shouldn't be an issue here. 3) A quick pitch is an illegal pitch. A ball should be added to the count with no one on base. With runner on, a balk should be called. 4) They will stop doing it once they have walked someone or balked a run in because they won't stop doing it. If they are ignoring your request, especially after enforcing penalties, you are well within your rights to remove the pitcher from the game.

This is just a misunderstanding of what is being said. The non-vertical aspects apply to portions that go beyond the facing of the fence/netting continuing towards the out of play side. Think of the backstop and netting that covers seating areas right behind home plate. A ball going up onto the horizontal portion of that netting would be out of play. In your situation, unless it hits the top/outside of your fencing, it would remain in play.

In the end, it could just be that they messed up. Just like the crew early in the college season where they got an out.

They are allowed to come back to the base head first, they are not allowed to advance to the base head first.

Because he didn't balk. Once legally disengaged, the pitcher can't balk with a throw to, or away from, a base. So this just becomes a non-legitimate pick off attempt and that is an action clock violation. Remember, the balk would have been for throwing to a defender away from 3rd base (a feint to 3rd) which would have to come from an engaged position. As soon as he disengaged, he can feint all day. The ball becomes dead once we determine that it isn't a legitimate pick off attempt and we enforce the action clock violation... yes. Maybe I am not following your question/statement?

Care to elaborate?

I responded on RM just to get you some traction.

Yeah... but the throw was still away and a lob... put those two together and you get a violation.

By rule, he has to make a "legitimate" attempt to retire the runner. He did not do so by throwing to the defender away from the base.

Sure looks like the pitcher stepped to the rear and with no legitimate pick off attempt, an action clock violation would be appropriate.

It just seems like an odd question to ask. Not like we are asking what kind of cups the male umpires are wearing... I think that is what they were trying to get at.

Troy Fullwood

Well done by the crew... Just waiting for someone to come and say, "It wasn't a lodged ball because the kid grabbed it!!"

This is a great move for the NCAA. I have learned a lot from Jeff over the years. There is going to be a large void on the field for the ACC to fill.

If you can make it work... Go. You will leave a better umpire than when you arrived.

Can you control what other regions do? Can you control who gets selected to do those games? The answer to both of those questions is no. So stop worrying about it. Control what you can control. You don't need to toot your own horn on-line. Just go work and don't be a thief of joy. Something about this just rubs me the wrong way... What you started appeared to be in good faith, but has apparently devolved into complaining that you and your friends are much better umpires than the gentleman in the video and shouldn't be working games of that magnitude. Personally, that is probably why you aren't working the games that you think you "deserve".

It clearly is... I will give him this though, when he moved, he moved with a purpose.

This is another "Solo Game" thing, to keep everything in front of you. It is solidifying my stance.

So after some talk with MLB and P5 umpires who obviously work WAY more 4 Umpire system than I do, the suggestion that I got from all of them was, start on the same side, regardless of pull. So I started off the left hip of F6 all night. Gave me a short run to the back side of 2nd and a shorter path to get inside without having to cross the BR's path.

To me... it looks like a guy who is used to working games solo, so he went out to the position that he was comfortable in to take a play at the plate... So it might not be a "training issue" as much as muscle memory.

Also known as... I've worked more in this league so people know me so they don't test me as often... 😉

I wouldn’t say that it was endemic, but it became clear to us that it could be used as a “reset” of the clock with no one on base when there was no way to have a reset with no one on base.

There is ZERO possible chance that U1 can see obstruction on a play coming back into 2nd base. The optics of it are AWFUL at best. U3 would have a better look at it than U1. Either way, I'm not coming up from the wings to make an OBS call at 2nd base.

There is a key difference between the two situations. The pitch had already begun in one and not in the other. Again… call it however you wish. I don’t have an issue with the balk call.