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Did you hear Eddings say I think "BJ, that's enough" with the start of a stop sign. BJ keeps going, get's dumped. And then is confused why. Just like my mom used to say, "Enough means enough!"

And what the heck is Showalter complaining about? As the announcers said (yes, I agreed w/them for once) it was clearly an EASY call to make, 100% BI. Showalter just LOVES to come out and complain.

They at least all root for their team, and so in that sense are. They agree with the calls for their team, disagree with those against, much as a fan does. However, Hawk takes this to an astounding level. I live in Chicago and am a Cubs fan. However, even if I was a Sox fan I could NOT watch them on TV. Hawk is THE MOST irritating person in the WORLD to me.

If I saw something like that I would LIKE to call the cops. However, I don't carry a phone in the field so not much I can do... Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

BigUmp56 - you're sort of hijacking a thread, should probably start your own. But, I know a guy pretty well who attended one of the Pro Schools at an older age. (40's I'm pretty sure, maybe even 50). He, obviously, had no desire to umpire MLB (or at least knew that wasn't an option) and was already doing some decent HS ball. He wanted to improve, said he learned a lot, and is very very happy with his decision. He currently calls a lot of D1 ball. I say go for it if you want.

So, I told parts of this story to a few in the chat, but I'll post it for all now. I did 2 semi's and a final in some 14U ball this Sunday. Game 1 started things off quite interesting. I'm PU, in the first inning I have a HT coach question the length of the bases. (This is a multi-length field. Probably 70/80/90 I think.) 1st base coach (AC) thinks yesterday they were FURTHER away. Supposed to be at 90'. We're on the farthest peg. I tell him, no, I'm pretty sure this is 90'. He questions it like 2 more times right there as his own HC tells him, "No, I'm pretty sure 90' is the farthest peg. It isn't like we would have been on a 95' base yesterday!" That was just odd. Now we're in the 3rd inning. VT makes a pitching change. #25 comes in for #6 we'll say. #25 takes his 8 warmups, and is ready to go. HT coach asks for time, comes out, tells me the pitcher has metal spikes. I'm like, uh, yeah, ok?? He tells me the pitcher isn't allowed to have them, it's a rule. I say I'm not aware. I ask my partner, he's not aware. HT coach is adamant that it's a rule. I call time and run to the tourney rep, who is just behind our field. He informs me it IS a rule that was sent in an email to all the coaches last week. (Of course we wouldn't want to inform the umpires of this rule, but anyway...) He tells me he'd like the guy to change if he has something else, but he's really not that worried. I go talk w/VT coach and pitcher. Kid wears size 13's and doesn't have any other shoes. I go talk w/the HT coach, tell him situation, ask if he can just allow the kid to play. He says absolutely not, it's a rule, he wants it enforced. I'm like, OK. Tell the VT coach, the kid ends up switching shoes w/the one other guy on the field who wears like 12's. All is good. (Though you can tell the VT is like, really...) So then the VT is batting, and one of the kids says the pitchers shirt is distracting him because it keeps moving since it isn't tucked in, can he tuck it in? I ask him to do so, because that too is a rule! (haha) Then in the 5th or 6th inning, the VT is batting. #25 get's a single and reaches 1st base. HT calls time, informs me #25 should be called out for BOO. I was like, "WTH?" (Well, not totally, I had heard them getting together and researching the BOO rules on their iPad for the last 2 innings.) He informs me #25 was an unannounced sub, and therefore is BOO, and should be called out. I tell him #25 was announced as the pitcher and has PITCHED MULTIPLE INNINGS! He then informs me he isn't on the lineup card as a substitute so he cannot be an announced sub, and should be called out. I inform him that no, that means he is an unlisted sub, there is NO penalty, and I will let the VT coach know to give you any other subs he may use now. VT coach says he's not using anymore. (They're down 7-0 now, with at most 1 1/2 innings left. Ended up less than that when the score got to 8-0 for the run rule.) That was all game 1. Game two pretty uneventful except one play where there is a 5-3 putout but the throw is bad, and so F3 takes the catch just a few steps towards HP. F3 does a swipe tag, tag applied, and force of the runner causes the ball to pop out. My partner calls him out and tries to sell it. Coach comes to ME to reverse the call (same coach as HT in game 1...), I kindly inform him to talk to my partner. He does, gets nowhere. We move on. (I guess coach asked my partner to get help, he didn't saying he had the best view in the park. My reply to the help would have been "Jim, I saw the back of the kids jersey, I got nadda for you!) Championship game had one interesting screw up. One of the teams has been at bat FOR the freak EVER. I mean, FOREVER. It is HOT out, game 3 of the day, about the hottest part of the day. I'm BU in this game. There are NO outs still. Kids ask 2 or 3 times for the number of outs, I tell them 0. Then there's a sac fly. 2 batters later the runner asks me how many outs. For some reason I can't remember. I ask my partner. He tells me 2 outs. I'm like, ok, I remember the one out, maybe I forgot one? So I tell the runner at 2nd and SS who has by now asked me also, 2 outs. Kid at bat strikes out. Everyone runs off the field. Parents are screaming 2 outs, 2 outs. My partner and I consult both coaches, yup 2 outs. So we call everyone back. Defensive team then tries tagging 2nd and getting the runner out for abandonment! (No, different coach, problem guy's team lost game 2, no championship game for them...) I was like, absolutely not, not when it's our mistake. He pushed for a few seconds, "well, there IS a rule where you can call him out." Um, no coach, sorry, I'm not calling him out when *I* screwed the pooch. Most exciting/interesting/f*ed up 3 games I've had in a LOOONG time. Sorry for the long post.

Yes, as noumpere says, MLB is pretty much useless. There are plenty of guys that every day blow thorough stops and it's just fine. But if you make the slightest flinch with an elbow or step at 44 degrees, you might get it called.

Rich - it COULD be a HBP/Dead Ball/Ball too. I've never called THAT one. My general thought is if it is a ball, it's NOT where it should be and the batter really has to do something stupid to get a ball charged to him. But it's definitely possible. I've had multiple DC come to me and say things along the lines of "he has to get out of the way" or "he didn't try to avoid it." Well, when the pitch hits him on the BACK, and he made ANY attempt to move, tough luck. Teach your pitcher to hit the zone!

10/10, but I ALMOST got the BOO question wrong. Couldn't decide, just picked one.

As discussed in the chat this evening (and apparently you didn't like our answer!): 7.04 Each runner, other than the batter, may without liability to be put out, advance one base when— © A fielder, after catching a fly ball, falls into a bench or stand, or falls across ropes into a crowd when spectators are on the field; Rule 7.04© Comment: If a fielder, after having made a legal catch, should fall into a stand or among spectators or into the dugout or any other out-of-play area while in possession of the ball after making a legal catch, or fall while in the dugout after making a legal catch, the ball is dead and each runner shall advance one base, without liability to be put out, from his last legally touched base at the time the fielder fell into, or in, such out-of-play area. However, he has to completely fall into the stands/bench/etc. Also, this is what the rules say, and that is why it is so.

I like Miller Park, very nice place to watch a baseball game. The one game I saw at the Metrodome - worst place to watch a baseball game. Ever. In the world. Dollar hot dogs and dollar drinks and $5 tickets probably still wasn't worth it!

It just amazes me how that happens. I know WHY it happens, I just don't GET it.

My first game this year was scheduled for Mar 15th. My first game was Apr 2nd that I got in. Had 13 cancelled just in that time span. I've had like 25 or 30 cancelled due to weather now. And 2 more just cancelled due to a very small tourney they weren't expecting.

I'm totally with you. I do NOT think a slide should be required. There are times when sliding is much more dangerous than running into a fielder, let alone the slide itself being dangerous. Again, I'm not very good on LL, thankfully I almost never do it! (If I did more than 1 game a year I'd probably have to learn all their quirks better)

I had a coach yesterday in an 11U tourney tell his catcher this "on a dropped third strike touch home plate and then throw down to first" with bases loaded and no outs. When I explained to him the rule briefly in between innings, he told me, "Thank's so much for telling me. I didn't realize. I'm glad you told me here and not having a parent yell at me when I didn't know!"

We have very few games around here that make any specific rules about slides. They usually just use the FED slide rule. The modification is usually, "a player MUST SLIDE if a play is to be made." I can't remember a single ruleset that I have done that prohibits head first slides.

While I understand being even less lenient by myself, right or wrong 90% of what we do in this area is 1 man. (It's wrong, I know, but it is what it is). Like I said I probably should have been a few steps over, so I was a bit pissed at myself. Even though it WAS just me, I wasn't where *I* wanted to be.

Last week I had my third ejection of the year. This after having just 1 the last two years. Oh well... Bronco's level ball, so I think 11 & 12 year old kids. I'm a single umpire, game set to start at 8pm. I finish the 6pm game at about 12 to 8pm, the VT is immediately in their dugout and telling me they have warmed up already, just want 3-4 minutes on the field to warm up. Other team isn't visible. VT coach says this isn't that surprising. I find them in a batting cage. Tell them we're going to start at 8pm on the dot. They say okay, and don't show up till 4 minutes till. AND don't know who is pitching. Or who is catching, or anything else for that matter. And head coach had to "run home for an emergency" and will be back soon. So this is how the night started! Anyway, throughout the game there are 4 or 5 REALLY close plays. Mostly at 2nd base, one a pickoff throw at 1st w/a left handed batter. I make some calls, hear minor grumbling, but nothing at all special, or even worth thinking of. Just close plays. Fast forward to the 4th inning: (This is my EJ report with the beginning part eliminated) There was a play at 2nd base in the top of the 4th inning. Visiting team was batting and a ball hit to the outfield. The runner rounded first base and was approaching second base when the ball was thrown in from the outfield. The ball was caught by a home team defender and a tag attempted. The runner took one step towards the outfield, avoided the tag, and slid into second base. I called the runner safe at second and began retreating towards the plate. The home team assistant coach wearing a red Junior Icehogs t-shirt began to dispute the call, making comments, “That’s a horrible call,†and “You can’t call him safe there, he was tagged out.†I looked at the coach and he stated, “The other calls you were at least at home, if you’re going to be at second you have to get the call right, you may as well have stayed at home plate.†I stated, “Coach, that is enough,†while holding my right arm up. The coach then stated, “That is a ridiculous call!†I ejected the coach at this time. The coach then stated, “I’ll leave, but if you weren’t such a horrible umpire, I wouldn’t be leaving now.†He then left the field of play. Had I been 100% on the call, the AC might have been gone one comment earlier, but there was at least 1 runner on base already, and just me, so I might have been straightlined a bit. I didn't see a tag, couldn't call it. Wish I had been 1 or 2 steps to my left, would have made it better to see, but overall, I got a pretty good view. Didn't hear a tag anything, and didn't see a tag.

I realize this is like 9 days old, but I'm a bit behind around here! Great call, but more importantly, how in the heck is that bright yellow glove allowed? It looks RIDICULOUS!

HOW do they not know the rules at that level? That's a pretty basic rule. (Or at least so I thought...)

I love how the "R2" looks at R3 and is like, I'm out, but GET THAT DAMN HAND ON THE BAG OR WE'RE BOTH SCREWED!

Wow. That's pretty bad. They allow that, but you can't bob your head. MAYBE bob your head.

It's not like a 10U game (or Cubs game for that matter) where the batter reaches on an U3K. I suppose it's possible, but 99 times out of 100 at least he's out. While I could see the argument, I'd say they probably made the best call if they were gonna change it.

Eject early eject less is a GREAT mantra. But it doesn't always work with some thick headed coaches. A travel tourney I did a few weekends ago. At the time i didn't know this, but coach gets EJed in the 1st day of the tourney. 3rd day of tourney I EJ him. Next game my partner EJ's an assistant coach. They didn't get the clue that we WILL EJ! Oh, and we are ALL horrible umpires. Has NOTHING to do with the coaches poor attitudes at an 11U tourney.

I don't even know how you call that at the pro level and then let guys not stop everyday. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4 Beta