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Junior league baseball can the batter bat without a bat as instructed by manager


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Junior League Baseball Manager force instructed batter to take position in the batters box without a bat because he stuck out looking last at bat.

question is are required to have a bat in your hands to bat.

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I'm struggling to find anything. The definition doesn't address it: "A BATTER is an offensive player who takes a position in the batter’s box."

By the definition a Batter is in the box.

Further, depending on the form of the requirement I may be missing, this is for regular season Juniors? I'd allow it (but it would give me pause if first time I'd ever encountered it was in a game).

[Thank you for a great laugh!]

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I'm envisioning a coach trying to "teach a lesson" by way of embarrasment.  That is not in line with Little League's mission and values.  But, unless the situation is egregious, I think an umpire's default postition of staying out of the dugout would make any action on the part of the umpire difficult.  

However, there is some rule support for the umpire to act.  9.01 (d) allows an umpire to "disqualify...for unsportsmanlike conduct..." and the 2018 RIM note under 9.01(d) says, "Keep in mind that unsportsmanlike conduct or language could exist toward an umpire, the opposing team, and even a member of the same team.  Do not allow bad behavior to continue, even if it's not directed at you."

The "same team" standard is different that the "umpire" and "opposing team" standard, but it does exist.  There are so many possibilities to consider when judging whether or not the coach crossed a line.  But, if in your judgement it was crossed then warn and eject.   

In my league we've had coaches who are yellers and they've been told by the umpire to calm down with follow-ups by league administrators.  At the very least, send a note through the appropriate channel to make the league aware of the situation. 

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I think there is a "ready to hit" requirement somewhere.   He can't be ready to hit without a bat.

Regardless, if you've got two brain cells to rub together and an IQ above room temperature you shouldn't need to find explicit written instruction before quashing this kind of bullSH*#.

I've not seen, but have heard about an asshat coach who did this exactly for that reason - 'cause the kid struck out looking the previous at bat.

As a coach on the opposing team, I'm doing "something"...and that may end up being a full report to any appropriate league/association, but I probably won't do only that.  I'm not interested in that farce.  I'm asking the ump to make the kid bring a bat, and/or asking the ump to dump the coach.  I'm either intentionally walking the kid, or if he did get a bat then we're grooving him a bunch of meatballs.  I will literally fight the coach if he takes exception to my position.  I'd be admonishing his team's parents for allowing that nonsense too.

I'd implore any umpire to recognize that this is wrong, at any level high school or lower, and that you're the authority figure and you CAN do something, including tossing the coach.

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57 minutes ago, SeeingEyeDog said:

Alex/Ken, I'd like LL 4.06 and or LL 9.01 prohibiting coaches and players from making a mockery of the game...for $100, please?

"What is only applicable to a game that is not broadcast?"

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