Pitch hits hand and bat simultaneously on no swing

[HumblePie]

I have posted a similar post in the past and never gotten a consensus. I want a consensus please.

Any or all rule sets please.

Pitch comes inside, batter leans away with no effort to swing, and the ball pinches the crevice between the hand and the bat handle and touches both simultaneously. 

I say there is no rule in any rule set that covers this. 

I can tell you how I handle it, and will do so after I get some feedback. 

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

[jimurrayalterego]

5 minutes ago, HumblePie said:

I have posted a similar post in the past and never gotten a consensus. I want a consensus please.

Any or all rule sets please.

Pitch comes inside, batter leans away with no effort to swing, and the ball pinches the crevice between the hand and the bat handle and touches both simultaneously. 

I say there is no rule in any rule set that covers this. 

I can tell you how I handle it, and will do so after I get some feedback. 

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

Tie goes to the batter.

 

[BLWizzRanger]

If it hits simultaneously, I am first waiting to see the batter's reaction and if none, Ive got a foul ball. Otherwise, I am giving the batter the benefit of doubt and calling a hit batter. But that is just me.

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[noumpere]

I'm pretty sure it hit the hand first.

[Velho]

1 minute ago, noumpere said:

I'm pretty sure it hit the hand first.

But what is the batter no sells it? No reaction or anything and simply stays in the box?

[SH0102]

The rule doesn’t say the pitch must hit the batter and only the batter. If it hits bat and then body/hand, foul ball.

if it hits body before the bat or simultaneously, it’s a HBP.

Pitch was bad and contacted the batter, don’t overthink it

Edit: I always say, the rule book can not possibly list every scenario that could happen.  It lists what can’t happen and what people are required to do. The HBP rule says if pitch hits the batter, and assuming batter didn’t violate any of their obligations (varies by rule set), they get first base .  Rule book isn’t gonna list rule separately for every scenario of where or how it can hit the batter

[The Man in Blue]

I believe there was a memo about an e-mail that detailed a post-game barroom conversation between umpires that declared you should use the information you have, so if the ball deflects at less than a 45-degree angle and travels less than approximately 4 1/2 feet . . .