3rd out forced after a run.

[Amilcar]

Runner at 1st and 3rd, two outs.
The batter hits a pop up to the shortstop but the ball hits the glove and fall to the ground so the ball is fair. 
The runner in 3rd scores.
The batter reach 1st base but the shortstop grab the ball of the ground and force the out in 2nd base. 

Does the run counts ? 

[Richvee]

No run can score when the third out is a force out. 

[SH0102]

2 hours ago, Amilcar said:

Runner at 1st and 3rd, two outs.
The batter hits a pop up to the shortstop but the ball hits the glove and fall to the ground so the ball is fair. 
The runner in 3rd scores.
The batter reach 1st base but the shortstop grab the ball of the ground and force the out in 2nd base. 

Does the run counts ? 

Rich already answered so side question, with 2 outs, how did r1 not reach second before all this happened?

[Replacematt]

37 minutes ago, SH0102 said:

Rich already answered so side question, with 2 outs, how did r1 not reach second before all this happened?

Maybe forgot there were two out and held the base?

[jimurrayalterego]

1 hour ago, Replacematt said:

Maybe forgot there were two out and held the base?

The OP may have been watching one or two or even three of my chapter's JV scrimmages the last two weeks.

[Velho]

2 hours ago, SH0102 said:

Rich already answered so side question, with 2 outs, how did r1 not reach second before all this happened?

For the same reasons they are running gassers as we speak?

[Replacematt]

20 minutes ago, jimurrayalterego said:

The OP may have been watching one or two or even three of my chapter's JV scrimmages the last two weeks.

That's not too bad. I'd venture to guess that the vast majority of baserunning mental errors I've seen have been forgetting there were two out.

I've seen runners that were far more experienced and talented forget. The most painful was a college player (R2) forgetting in the sixth inning of a tie game. He would have scored easily...instead, we went 20 innings.

[Amilcar]

9 hours ago, Richvee said:

No run can score when the third out is a force out. 

Thanks a lot.  Sometimes local umps in my city can't handle the fact that they made a bad call in a very simple situation like that and that an "amateur player" correct them.

I was helping some mates in a friendly game with other group of guys. After the inning was over, I talked to the ump: "Hey, we're having fun, I appreciate that you want to make these guys have a more fluid game, but that run can't count, right ?" And with the self confidence of a Greek God, he replied me that he made the correct call, and something about a "second play after the error" I swear I was very confused, because I knew I was right, but at the same time I was thinking "Damn, there's no need to lie about something that I already tell that is cool, am I wrong? what i missed?".

I love baseball and I hate the fact that they makes me doubt about my knowledge just because they won't say : "You're right, my bad." 

7 hours ago, SH0102 said:

Rich already answered so side question, with 2 outs, how did r1 not reach second before all this happened?

It was a beginners friendly game, he forgot how many outs were. 

[beerguy55]

On 2/16/2025 at 6:45 PM, SH0102 said:

Rich already answered so side question, with 2 outs, how did r1 not reach second before all this happened?

He's wondering the same thing while he's puking his guts out after the run his coach made him do after the game.