Plate umpire calls no pitch on a balk

[DCM]

OBR rule set runner at 2nd

Base umpire calls balk on pitcher for not pausing while set.  Before the ball is released the plate umpire stands up behind the plate with both hands up and says “no pitch.” Pitcher delivers the pitch and Batter hits a ground ball to SS who fields the ball but does not make the throw to 1st.

OC chooses to take the result of the hit. After getting together the umpires allow the hit to stand and result is runners at 1st and 3rd. 

Does the verbal “no pitch” from the PU stop play?

[Richvee]

Sounds like your plate umpire calls a lot of high school games. Under FED rules, the ball is dead immediately after a balk call

There is no “ choice” on a OBR balk. If the batter reaches first base by hit, error, walk, etc. and all other runners advance at least one base, the balk is ignored. Otherwise, it’s no pitch and runners advance one base. 
 

As for your PU calling no pitch immediately, the crew will need to right the wrong. It sounds like the offense played on and the SS didn’t complete a pretty sure out at 1b because of the no pitch call. If that’s the case I’d enforce the balk and bring the batter back to hit.

[The Man in Blue]

[SARCASM] Unless it was Little League ... then you just pretend the umpire never made the call and the play stands. [/ SARCASM]

 

[beerguy55]

Whether or not it's a mistake, isn't the play dead once the umpire says "no pitch" or anything somewhat related to a directive to not pitch the ball?

Isn't that a bell that can't be unrung?

I'm pretty sure in softball "no pitch" kills the play...wasn't sure about baseball, or if was ruleset specific.

 

[834k3r]

I would say the play isn't dead until an umpire (PU or BU) calls "Time!" Saying "no pitch" is only a phrase I use to help scorekeepers and coaches describe the call and correct pitch counts. For example I'll say "no pitch" if F1 throws the ball and I haven't put the ball in play (LL example, but still...).

[Richvee]

9 hours ago, 834k3r said:

I would say the play isn't dead until an umpire (PU or BU) calls "Time!" Saying "no pitch" is only a phrase I use to help scorekeepers and coaches describe the call and correct pitch counts. For example I'll say "no pitch" if F1 throws the ball and I haven't put the ball in play (LL example, but still...).

However, if it’s an animated, demonstrative call after the balk, and the SS doesn’t throw because you jumped up raised your hands and yelled “ no pitch” , your error caused play to stop. You have to pick a poison here. I’ll go with what would have happened if I didn’t interrupt play. 

[834k3r]

14 hours ago, Richvee said:

However, if it’s an animated, demonstrative call after the balk, and the SS doesn’t throw because you jumped up raised your hands and yelled “ no pitch” , your error caused play to stop. You have to pick a poison here. I’ll go with what would have happened if I didn’t interrupt play. 

To be clear, I was mainly addressing @beerguy55's question of the play being dead when an umpire says "no pitch."

[Rich Ives]

On 10/20/2022 at 12:40 PM, 834k3r said:

I would say the play isn't dead until an umpire (PU or BU) calls "Time!" Saying "no pitch" is only a phrase I use to help scorekeepers and coaches describe the call and correct pitch counts. For example I'll say "no pitch" if F1 throws the ball and I haven't put the ball in play (LL example, but still...).

Both hands up IS a time call.