Double Coach Ejection

[NateWalter]

Weird, dumb double ejection in 14U baseball. Both teams decided they were going to go with straight-nine lineups and substitutes in our weekly league (they don't have to. As umpires in this league, we don't even keep the lineups)... well, the discussion at the plate meeting was surrounding the designated hitter and we ended the meeting thinking that both coaches understood how the DH worked and what it meant for substitutes. Apparently, it was not understood.

Fast forward to the 4th inning, Team A is ahead by 3 runs and makes a pitching change. The kid who was slated at the DH is now warming up on the mound. The previous pitcher is out of the game. Everything should be up to speed. Team B's coach comes to me and starts questioning whether new pitcher can be in the game. I told him yes. He kept disagreeing. He saw our league director, so to appease him, we brought the league director in to make a decision.

Now, mind you, this was between innings. The kids were warming up, and now, we have to stop the game to get a ruling on procedural moves and the kids are just waiting around and parents getting agitated. The league director, myself and my partner conference, and we tried to keep the coaches away so we could come to a decision. While making a decision, the coaches begin shouting at each other. The director quickly makes a call so we could tend to this new situation... the new pitcher was allowed to stay in the game.

But as my partner and I tried to get things settled, the coaches were still shouting at each other. Team B's coach offers his choice form of the F-word, and my partner runs him. In response, Team A coach then shouts his favorite form of the same word, and invoked the other coach's mother into it... so I run him. The league director did a marvelous job getting them to head out to their vehicles and allowing us to move the game along.

All regarding a lack of understanding and agreement on how to use the DH. So dumb.

[maven]

They probably needed to go wash their boats.

Oh well.

[Dottelife]

Dropping the F bomb will find you a parking lot. Good move getting an official ruling on it, sounds like you have a good league director.

[ArchAngel72]

[wolfe_man]

[The Man in Blue]

I don't know that I believe this story.  Everybody knows ALL coaches listen and understand every word we say at the plate meeting AND are totally up to speed on all rules.

Honestly, I don't know why we bother with plate meetings.  I hate to say it, but I have cut out everything beyond getting a line up card, verifying home team, and starting the clock.  "Are all your players legally equipped?"  "Yes," says the coach as I look over at 6 different uniforms and a Mr. T starter kit on every kid.

[Catch18]

I don't know that I believe this story.  Everybody knows ALL coaches listen and understand every word we say at the plate meeting AND are totally up to speed on all rules.
Honestly, I don't know why we bother with plate meetings.  I hate to say it, but I have cut out everything beyond getting a line up card, verifying home team, and starting the clock.  "Are all your players legally equipped?"  "Yes," says the coach as I look over at 6 different uniforms and a Mr. T starter kit on every kid.

HS, I’m fine with them. Mine are about 30 seconds, and the 2 min for coach to give ground rules.

I honestly don’t know why the hell we do them for summer ball.

[umpstu]

17 hours ago, NateWalter said:

Weird, dumb double ejection in 14U baseball. Both teams decided they were going to go with straight-nine lineups and substitutes in our weekly league (they don't have to. As umpires in this league, we don't even keep the lineups)... well, the discussion at the plate meeting was surrounding the designated hitter and we ended the meeting thinking that both coaches understood how the DH worked and what it meant for substitutes. Apparently, it was not understood.

Fast forward to the 4th inning, Team A is ahead by 3 runs and makes a pitching change. The kid who was slated at the DH is now warming up on the mound. The previous pitcher is out of the game. Everything should be up to speed. Team B's coach comes to me and starts questioning whether new pitcher can be in the game. I told him yes. He kept disagreeing. He saw our league director, so to appease him, we brought the league director in to make a decision.

Now, mind you, this was between innings. The kids were warming up, and now, we have to stop the game to get a ruling on procedural moves and the kids are just waiting around and parents getting agitated. The league director, myself and my partner conference, and we tried to keep the coaches away so we could come to a decision. While making a decision, the coaches begin shouting at each other. The director quickly makes a call so we could tend to this new situation... the new pitcher was allowed to stay in the game.

But as my partner and I tried to get things settled, the coaches were still shouting at each other. Team B's coach offers his choice form of the F-word, and my partner runs him. In response, Team A coach then shouts his favorite form of the same word, and invoked the other coach's mother into it... so I run him. The league director did a marvelous job getting them to head out to their vehicles and allowing us to move the game along.

All regarding a lack of understanding and agreement on how to use the DH. So dumb.

Did a game 2 weeks ago and had a team and their coach ragging on us for them being dumb asses.  At one point in the game there were runners on first and third with one out.  Guess how the coach positioned his defense?  Give up?  He had them play in so before the pitcher even began his motion the offense was able to steal second.  What credibility the coach had slipped away.  Can't stand travel ball.

[NateWalter]

On 6/9/2022 at 3:37 PM, Catch18 said:

HS, I’m fine with them. Mine are about 30 seconds, and the 2 min for coach to give ground rules.

I honestly don’t know why the hell we do them for summer ball.

Our plate meetings are usually the following: did you exchange lineups? Here are issues we need to address (usually a rules issue in our league) and then we flip for home/away.

The issue of DH came up as each coach disclosed they were going straight-9 with a DH.