When is a check swing a strike?

[BigVic69]

In Little League, when would a check swing be considered a strike?

1) A bat passes completely over the plate

2) A bat passes over any part of the rear of the plate

3) If the batter makes a motion considered to be the beginning of a swing.

Or something else.

[The Man in Blue]

Baseball Zen ... it is not a matter of what you see or what the check swing looks like.  Umpires must, in this case, dig deep inside and find the true meaning of “a swing”.  One must rely on a more fixed criteria based in metaphysics and the orientation of the universe: did it sound like a swing?

[Biscuit]

8 hours ago, The Man in Blue said:

Baseball Zen ... it is not a matter of what you see or what the check swing looks like.  Umpires must, in this case, dig deep inside and find the true meaning of “a swing”.  One must rely on a more fixed criteria based in metaphysics and the orientation of the universe: did it sound like a swing?

We could appeal to track man?

WWTMD

[ArchAngel72]

20 hours ago, Kevin_K said:

Or point at the batter "Yes he did!"

 

^^^ this!

I was pointing out If you don't know ask for help.  But I was doing it in jest..

If you don't think he went but maybe he did you don't ask unless someone asks you for the appeal.

I see your point though. call more strikes.

[Replacematt]

1 hour ago, ArchAngel72 said:

If you don't think he went but maybe he did you don't ask unless someone asks you for the appeal.

If there's a chance he did, ask on your own. It's a good habit and manages the game better.

[The Man in Blue]

On 4/25/2020 at 2:44 PM, Matt said:

Do you think he was trying to hit it? That's the answer.

Of course he was trying to hit it.  The bat wouldn’t have left his shoulder if he wasn’t.

Until he wasn’t.  Even then he wasn’t trying NOT to hit it.  He was trying to not continue his swing because he already knew he wouldn’t hit it.  Thus, if he knew he wasn’t going to hit it ... he already knew it was a strike.

[Steven Tyler]

I thought the criteria was more along the lines did the batter offer at the pitch? 

[ArchAngel72]

On 4/30/2020 at 11:35 AM, Matt said:

If there's a chance he did, ask on your own. It's a good habit and manages the game better.

 

Personally I do not prefer that if you are unsure of yourself and ask 3 or 4 times a game possibly that does not make you look too "clean" at the plate, not to mention you are slowing the game down. Specially if no one asks about the call. If the defensive team thinks he did, then they will be asking you to appeal.

 

 

[Replacematt]

27 minutes ago, ArchAngel72 said:

 

Personally I do not prefer that if you are unsure of yourself and ask 3 or 4 times a game possibly that does not make you look too "clean" at the plate, not to mention you are slowing the game down. Specially if no one asks about the call. If the defensive team thinks he did, then they will be asking you to appeal.

 

 

Quite the opposite. It takes literally one second to ask and a few more to get a response. That's far less than waiting for the defense, and participants tend to respond better to umpires who go on their own. By going early, it keeps the emotional temperature of the field down as there's less time to build anticipation for your partner's decision.

Secondly, if you get in that habit, you won't get burned on U3Ks. This is possibly the more important factor in doing it this way.