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noumpere
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Allow me:   m = 22.5 inches, the minimum rule book zone a = average age of players in years k = constant between 20 and 60, depending on how much of a pitcher's umpire you are (o

Replacematt
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That's common among umpires starting out...as you progress and see more pitches, it becomes less of "Where is my zone and did that pitch hit it?" and more of "Did that look like a strike?"

umpire_scott
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I know exactly what you are saying, but it also frustrates me that we don't reward good pitches when we consider whether they can "get good wood on it".  Isn't the point of the pitcher to find those s

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ALStripes17

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This one is dedicated to Matt:

How wide should you call a strike?

When I come up out of my stance to point, I am probably only as wide as the middle of the LH batter's box. Probably a little less.

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GoodCallBlue!

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26 minutes ago, ALStripes17 said:

When I come up out of my stance to point, I am probably only as wide as the middle of the LH batter's box. Probably a little less. emoji109.png

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I'm referring to the strike zone.

ALStripes17

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I'm referring to the strike zone.

Well aware. I still 'punch-emoji-ed' you

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noumpere

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54 minutes ago, GoodCallBlue! said:

This one is dedicated to Matt:

How wide should you call a strike zone?

As wide as you can before they start to bitch.  And by "they" I mean the general coach in that league, not any coach in a specific game.

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m = 22.5 inches, the minimum rule book zone

a = average age of players in years

k = constant between 20 and 60, depending on how much of a pitcher's umpire you are (or, maybe just your age)

 

zone_width = m + k/a

 

This formula is appropriate up to college age players. There's a different formula for adult leagues.

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When I was brushing the plate the other night at the beginning of the game, a head coach (16U) made a comment about how clean I like it. I replied "I like to use the whole thing Scott, and you can't use the whole thing if you can't see it!". His reply - "I like that! Most guys don't know where the corners are at all, that's good to hear!". Call strikes!!! 

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18 minutes ago, Matt said:

No.

Huh, sure would've thought there wouldn't be that many Matts out there.

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GoodCallBlue!

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4 hours ago, maven said:

m = 22.5 inches, the minimum rule book zone

a = average age of players in years

k = constant between 20 and 60, depending on how much of a pitcher's umpire you are (or, maybe just your age)

 

zone_width = m + k/a

 

This formula is appropriate up to college age players. There's a different formula for adult leagues.

Please "expand" on what you mean?

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5 minutes ago, GoodCallBlue! said:

Please "expand" on what you mean?

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noumpere

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13 hours ago, GoodCallBlue! said:

Please "expand" on what you mean?

Allow me:

 

m = 22.5 inches, the minimum rule book zone

a = average age of players in years

k = constant between 20 and 60, depending on how much of a pitcher's umpire you are (or, maybe just your age)

 

zone_width = m + k/a

 

You're welcome.  ;)

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GoodCallBlue!

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37 minutes ago, noumpere said:

Allow me:

 

m = 22.5 inches, the minimum rule book zone

a = average age of players in years

k = constant between 20 and 60, depending on how much of a pitcher's umpire you are (or, maybe just your age)

 

zone_width = m + k/a

 

You're welcome.  ;)

I was never good with "new" math so as the foreman asked in the movie PHILADELPHIA, "Could someone explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old?"

noumpere

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8 minutes ago, GoodCallBlue! said:

I was never good with "new" math so as the foreman asked in the movie PHILADELPHIA, "Could someone explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old?"

the younger the players, the wider the zone.

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2 hours ago, GoodCallBlue! said:

How wide for every level? That was kind of the question to begin with wasn't it?

If you want a precise measurement guideline, IMHO, no more than two ballwidths outside at the belt, maybe no more than one ballwidth inside.  The younger batters, like 9-10yo, often can't reach farther out than that.  

But the right strike zone balances out the quality of the pitching with the quality of the batting to achieve the appropriate balance between offense and defense.  Determining appropriateness requires judgment, which requires experience.  

But if the pitching really sucks, . . .

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Rich has always said don't go wider for little guys.  13-year-old pitchers struggle just as much on 60' mounds as 9-year-old pitchers on 46' mounds.  But 13-year-old batters can reach farther than 9-year-old batters.

 

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Let's use Maven's average of 40 (mid-point of 20-60), adjusting for how much of a pitcher's umpire you are.

 

so 22.5 = baseline width.

Then you add a little for the average age, using 40 as the base, divide by the age.

 

So if the kids are 10, you use 40/10 = 4.

 

22.5 + 4 = 26.5" for 10 yr olds.

 

for 13, 40/13 = 3.333 = 22.5 + 3.33 = 25.83" for 13 year olds.

It would help to know what part of his equation you have trouble with. 

What do you think it should be? What are you hoping to get out of this thread?

GoodCallBlue!

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9 hours ago, udbrky said:

Let's use Maven's average of 40 (mid-point of 20-60), adjusting for how much of a pitcher's umpire you are.

 

so 22.5 = baseline width.

Then you add a little for the average age, using 40 as the base, divide by the age.

 

So if the kids are 10, you use 40/10 = 4.

 

22.5 + 4 = 26.5" for 10 yr olds.

 

for 13, 40/13 = 3.333 = 22.5 + 3.33 = 25.83" for 13 year olds.

It would help to know what part of his equation you have trouble with. 

What do you think it should be? What are you hoping to get out of this thread?

And I should measure 25.83" how? Why not round up to 26"? LMAO

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