Interference... 1 out or 2?

[Guest Howie]

FED: R3, R1, one out.  BR hits slowish ground ball to F4, R1 is running on contact.  F4 charges in but stops to let R1 pass because there would have been contact otherwise.  I call 

interference on R1 as he proceeds to second while F4 throws BR out at first.  I get two outs with no run scoring, was this right?

 

 

[noumpere]

If it was really INT and you think the INT prevented a double play you were right (by rule in FED).

 

That said -- without the INT, it sounds as though there would have only been one out -- so that's all you should get.

And, as a practical matter, it's rare to get two outs (absent INT) even in FED (although it's allowed).

 

And, I'm not really sure it was INT, but that's a HTBT kind of call.

[LittleBlue]

Wouldn't the INT kill the play right away? You said you let F4 throw to 1B to record the out there. You could have called INT and called the runner out, placed R3 back at 3rd and BR at 1st because you'd have to assume a DP, no?

[The Flush]

If F4 was able to get the out at first, how was he interfered with?

[Richvee]

3 hours ago, Guest Howie said:

FED: R3, R1, one out.  BR hits slowish ground ball to F4, R1 is running on contact.  F4 charges in but stops to let R1 pass because there would have been contact otherwise.  I call 

interference on R1 as he proceeds to second while F4 throws BR out at first.  I get two outs with no run scoring, was this right?

 

 

That never "happened".....

The reasoning of your call is wrong. Once you deem it INT, the ball is dead. Technically, F4 never made a throw to 1st. The ball is dead TOI, R1 is out, then, as noumpere pointed out, under FED rules, you can get two if you believe the interference prevented a double play. On such a slow roller, it's highly doubtful even if F4 was able to charge the slow roller he could have got two. However, it is a HTBT judgement call.

Had there been no outs or had only called R1out in your situation, R3 would be returned to 3rd.

[FleasOf1000Camels]

I realize that posts like this always involve a certain amount of HTBT, but from the description, I'm not seeing interference and certainly not getting 2 outs.  F4 was a chickensh*t and voluntarily gave up his legal right-of-way in order to avoid possible collision.  Then he got the batter/runner at first...OP says it was a slow roller, one out was all they were going to get with or without any potential interference, they got an out, so how was there interference?

If you called the INT right away, then you're stuck with it.  R1 is out, and BR gets 1st.  If not called right away, then R1 is safe at 2nd and BR is out on the play.  Just my .02

[ALStripes17]

I realize that posts like this always involve a certain amount of HTBT, but from the description, I'm not seeing interference and certainly not getting 2 outs.  F4 was a chickensh*t and voluntarily gave up his legal right-of-way in order to avoid possible collision.  Then he got the batter/runner at first...OP says it was a slow roller, one out was all they were going to get with or without any potential interference, they got an out, so how was there interference?

If you called the INT right away, then you're stuck with it.  R1 is out, and BR gets 1st.  If not called right away, then R1 is safe at 2nd and BR is out on the play.  Just my .02

Interference doesn't require contact. The OP clearly describes INT by the runner.

I agree with not getting 2 outs here.

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[Replacematt]

39 minutes ago, FleasOf1000Camels said:

I realize that posts like this always involve a certain amount of HTBT, but from the description, I'm not seeing interference and certainly not getting 2 outs.  F4 was a chickensh*t and voluntarily gave up his legal right-of-way in order to avoid possible collision.  Then he got the batter/runner at first...OP says it was a slow roller, one out was all they were going to get with or without any potential interference, they got an out, so how was there interference?

If you called the INT right away, then you're stuck with it.  R1 is out, and BR gets 1st.  If not called right away, then R1 is safe at 2nd and BR is out on the play.  Just my .02

That would make this INT.

[maven]

3 minutes ago, Matt said:

That would make this INT.

I agree. F4 is not required to initiate contact to "draw" an INT call.