VHSL Test

[Storm13]

I am new umpire in VA and took the VHSL test this morning....not a very good result.  Any suggestion of help that someone could give?  Would have been nice to have like practice test or something.  Thanks for anything you can suggest.

[maineump]

Find a good mentor, or find a study group. Many associations will have some study groups, just ask around to see what you can find.

If the questions are FED, then really study the situations, as most of that test comes out of that book.

We have many that have a hard time on the written test, but do very well on the field and they do study groups. Sometimes the rules and situations just need to be put into a different context.

[Storm13]

3 minutes ago, maineump said:

Find a good mentor, or find a study group. Many associations will have some study groups, just ask around to see what you can find.

If the questions are FED, then really study the situations, as most of that test comes out of that book.

We have many that have a hard time on the written test, but do very well on the field and they do study groups. Sometimes the rules and situations just need to be put into a different context.

Thanks for the encouragement...I just emailed my association president and hope he can help me find a good group to work with to retake the test.

[ZebraStripes]

If there are certain questions you want to ask, let em rip.  We have different tests down here in Georgia, but taking a look at questions never hurt anyone.

[Storm13]

The thing is I have no clue the ones I got right or wrong...just a percent correct.  

[DWDIII]

With a runner on third, the batter hits a high pop fly that drifts over foul territory. The third baseman is accidentally prevented from catching the ball by the runner at third base.  A. Foul ball; B. The runner at third is out; C. The batter is out; D. The coach is restricted to the bench 

[noumpere]

14 hours ago, DWDIII said:

With a runner on third, the batter hits a high pop fly that drifts over foul territory. The third baseman is accidentally prevented from catching the ball by the runner at third base.  A. Foul ball; B. The runner at third is out; C. The batter is out; D. The coach is restricted to the bench 

Why is that an issue?  It's a good topic for a question because the rule was changed a few years ago, and it's good to get people to remember the change.

[GreyhoundAggie]

15 hours ago, DWDIII said:

With a runner on third, the batter hits a high pop fly that drifts over foul territory. The third baseman is accidentally prevented from catching the ball by the runner at third base.  A. Foul ball; B. The runner at third is out; C. The batter is out; D. The coach is restricted to the bench 

Is there a change i'm not aware of? It's just B isn't it?

[Storm13]

29 minutes ago, GreyhoundAggie said:

Is there a change i'm not aware of? It's just B isn't it?

That is why I hate these questions...The way i read it the runner is at third on the base so are we saying he has to leave the base to get out of the third baseman's way?  Also what if this was a coach I would think the batter would be out but not 110% sure.

[Storm13]

I went back through the test i took yesterday and found just over 20 questions that I was not sure of an many were just like this where i was not sure how the real life situation would look.

[noumpere]

35 minutes ago, GreyhoundAggie said:

Is there a change i'm not aware of? It's just B isn't it?

If the question was asked a few (5?) years ago, the answer would have been C.  It was an exception to the "the player who interferes is out" guideline.

[GreyhoundAggie]

36 minutes ago, Storm13 said:

That is why I hate these questions...The way i read it the runner is at third on the base so are we saying he has to leave the base to get out of the third baseman's way?  Also what if this was a coach I would think the batter would be out but not 110% sure.

Don't read it this way Storm. It's just saying there is a runner at 3rd. They will usually specify if he is in contact with the base. Don't assume he is in contact with the base. And he is entitled to stay on the base as long as the interference is not intentional. In this case they are implying, in my opinion, he is not in contact with the base and interferes with the opportunity to make the play by the 3rd baseman

33 minutes ago, noumpere said:

If the question was asked a few (5?) years ago, the answer would have been C.  It was an exception to the "the player who interferes is out" guideline.

Ahh ok. I guess I've thought of it the other way so long I didn't remember.

[DWDIII]

Here's why I posted it - b looks like the best answer to me but if that is true than a is true also, It's a foul ball ?? Case 8-4-2b ?

[GreyhoundAggie]

It is a foul ball yes, but the runner is also out for interference

[DWDIII]

Yep but the test only gives you an opportunity for one answer

[Richvee]

On 02/09/2016 at 7:51 PM, DWDIII said:

With a runner on third, the batter hits a high pop fly that drifts over foul territory. The third baseman is accidentally prevented from catching the ball by the runner at third base.  A. Foul ball; B. The runner at third is out; C. The batter is out; D. The coach is restricted to the bench 

Since A and B are both correct if R3 is off the base when he interferes, perhaps it's not a  stretch to think they they mean R3 is ON 3rd. In that case, if the INT is not intentional, (which is clarified in this question with "Accidentally prevented from catching the ball") and there is only one correct answer....A

[GreyhoundAggie]

I don't disagree Richvee, but I think that is stretching the play. I think its better to keep it simple here. I would be answering B on this question if it was me.

[Umpire in Chief]

@Storm13 I'm taking my VHSL test this weekend. 

Did you do the online rule clinic where the covered the penalty for a coach picking up a base and throwing it at your head? I watched it at work and literally laughed out loud when I heard that.

[Storm13]

 

24 minutes ago, Umpire in Chief said:

@Storm13 I'm taking my VHSL test this weekend. 

Did you do the online rule clinic where the covered the penalty for a coach picking up a base and throwing it at your head? I watched it at work and literally laughed out loud when I heard that.

Yes...I watched it and wish they would have invested that time and money to create a study guide or materials to assist umpires with the testing.

[Storm13]

I have 2 questions that I wanted to get some help with.  They are similar and simple I just can not imagine it in my head to figure out the position.

1) The pitcher places his entire pivot foot in contact with the pitching plate and his entire non-pivot foot in front of a line extending through the front edge of the pitching plate.

A) This is an illegal pitching position.

B) This is a legal wind-up position.

C) This is a legal set position.

2) The pitcher places his pivot foot on the pitching plate with the toe of the pivot foot in front of a line through the front edge of the plate and the toe of his pivot foot behind the back edge. His non-pivot foot is on and partially behind a line extending through the front edge of the pitching plate.

A) This is an illegal pitching position.

B) This is a legal wind-up position.

C) This is a legal set position.

[Jimurray]

42 minutes ago, Storm13 said:

I have 2 questions that I wanted to get some help with.  They are similar and simple I just can not imagine it in my head to figure out the position.

1) The pitcher places his entire pivot foot in contact with the pitching plate and his entire non-pivot foot in front of a line extending through the front edge of the pitching plate.

 

A) This is an illegal pitching position.

B) This is a legal wind-up position.

 

C) This is a legal set position.

 

2) The pitcher places his pivot foot on the pitching plate with the toe of the pivot foot in front of a line through the front edge of the plate and the toe of his pivot foot behind the back edge. His non-pivot foot is on and partially behind a line extending through the front edge of the pitching plate.

A) This is an illegal pitching position.

B) This is a legal wind-up position.

 

C) This is a legal set position.

 

 

 

 

1 is "C"

2 is "B" if you change the second "toe" to "heal".

[noumpere]

44 minutes ago, Storm13 said:

I have 2 questions that I wanted to get some help with.  They are similar and simple I just can not imagine it in my head to figure out the position.

1) The pitcher places his entire pivot foot in contact with the pitching plate and his entire non-pivot foot in front of a line extending through the front edge of the pitching plate.

 

A) This is an illegal pitching position.

B) This is a legal wind-up position.

 

C) This is a legal set position.

 

2) The pitcher places his pivot foot on the pitching plate with the toe of the pivot foot in front of a line through the front edge of the plate and the toe of his pivot foot behind the back edge. His non-pivot foot is on and partially behind a line extending through the front edge of the pitching plate.

A) This is an illegal pitching position.

B) This is a legal wind-up position.

 

C) This is a legal set position.

 

 

 

 

1) Reads like a legal set.

2) I think you have a typo.  I think they are trying to describe a legal wind-up.

[DWDIII]

The typo is on the test - ready for one more : a batter is out when hitting a foul ball while either foot or knee is touching the ground completely outside the lines of the batter's box or touching home plate when one of the following occurs: a. A fair ball; b. A foul ball; c. A foul tip; d. All of the above

[Storm13]

On 2/10/2016 at 6:31 PM, DWDIII said:

The typo is on the test - ready for one more : a batter is out when hitting a foul ball while either foot or knee is touching the ground completely outside the lines of the batter's box or touching home plate when one of the following occurs: a. A fair ball; b. A foul ball; c. A foul tip; d. All of the above

This question does not seem to make sence...how can a batter hit a foul ball.  In order for the ball to be foul doesn't he/she have to have already hit the ball?

[ElkOil]

9 hours ago, Storm13 said:

This question does not seem to make sence...how can a batter hit a foul ball.  In order for the ball to be foul doesn't he/she have to have already hit the ball?

The question is incorrect because it first states the batter hits a foul ball, then continues and gives you the choices. I believe they want it to read that "a batter is out while either foot or knee is touching..." etc. In that case, D would be correct.