Balk?

[BRUMP]

http://m.mlb.com/video/v34311565/nyymin-gardenhire-ejected-arguing-for-balk-call/?query=ejection

[maven]

It says "video not available," but if it's the move that got Gardy ejected, then I'd say, yeah, that's a step balk.

[BRUMP]

It says "video not available," but if it's the move that got Gardy ejected, then I'd say, yeah, that's a step balk.

 

ya thats what i was referring to.....@Thunderheads (or anyone else really) would you mind fixing the link for me i have no idea how to do it

[maven]

 

It says "video not available," but if it's the move that got Gardy ejected, then I'd say, yeah, that's a step balk.

 

ya thats what i was referring to.....@Thunderheads (or anyone else really) would you mind fixing the link for me i have no idea how to do it

 

 

Not a problem with the link. The video has to be posted in a certain way by MLB before the link embeds correctly.  Should work in the morning...

[dumbdumb]

Here is one Gardenhire wants called for popping the leg first or for the step in the original OP. Click and the Video should work after the commercial.

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/v34311565

 

 

 

 

 

 

and here below is one the manager does not want called that this crew had last week. Since when is a double pump not a no brainer when we talk about balks? Start at :58 for full look.

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/v34181483

[Jimurray]

Here is one Gardenhire wants called for popping the leg first or for the step in the original OP. Click and the Video should work after the commercial.

http://m.mlb.com/video/v34311565

and here below is one the manager does not want called that this crew had last week. Since when is a double pump not a no brainer when we talk about balks? Start at :58 for full look.

http://m.mlb.com/video/v34181483

Since nobody called it on this guy all season because a. He always does it, b. it is a continuous motion to come set. As Jim Evans says, a change or direction is not a stop. But wait, a lot of bounces in MLB are stops. So maybe Joe had the first bounce as a stop and thus the balk.

I don't think OBR has a restriction on pumping in the windup or stretch.

[Sayhey]

This movement by the Washington pitcher is unnecessary. It is designed to deceive the runner . . Funny that the catcher and coaching staff was incredulous that Joe called a balk. Just come set normally and Joe will not balk you

[ricka56]

http://m.mlb.com/video/?content_id=34311565&query=Gardenhire

 

I am not good enough to see a balk here.

[grayhawk]

This movement by the Washington pitcher is unnecessary. It is designed to deceive the runner

Still doesn't make it a balk.

[maven]

I thought Gardy had a point (hate to agree with that guy, but there it is). I don't see a step there (didn't watch closely enough to see a "knee pop").

 

I thought Joe West went fishin'. The Nats pitcher bounced through the first set (I'd have balked him if he did NOT come set after that for not stopping).

 

I suspect that there might be more to both stories than meets the eye. As usual, we should not use MLB as a guide for how to umpire our (amateur) games.

[zm1283]

I thought Gardy had a point (hate to agree with that guy, but there it is). I don't see a step there (didn't watch closely enough to see a "knee pop").

 

I thought Joe West went fishin'. The Nats pitcher bounced through the first set (I'd have balked him if he did NOT come set after that for not stopping).

 

I suspect that there might be more to both stories than meets the eye. As usual, we should not use MLB as a guide for how to umpire our (amateur) games.

 

Gardenhire and the Twins weren't arguing that he didn't step. They were arguing that he popped his front knee. He did pop his front knee so it was a balk, but even the pros don't catch it every time.