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Wesley

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SWMBO just called me and said Gerry Davis and his U1 had a double call on a line drive to F1 at Colorado.  Mattingly EJ.  Anyone see it?  What happened?

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Mattingly was ejected by first base umpire Brian Knight after plate umpire Gerry Davis ruled that Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke didn't catch a low line drive hit by Yorvit Torrealba. Greinke threw out

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There could be some differences between NF, Collegiate, OBR, and other organizations and what is taught for automatically helping out right on the spot without being asked versus waiting to be asked.

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SWMBO just called me and said Gerry Davis and his U1 had a double call on a line drive to F1 at Colorado.  Mattingly EJ.  Anyone see it?  What happened?

Mattingly was ejected by first base umpire Brian Knight after plate umpire Gerry Davis ruled that Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke didn't catch a low line drive hit by Yorvit Torrealba. Greinke threw out Torrealba at first and Nolan Arenado advanced to second.

 

 

You will have to wait for Thunder to post the video.

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noumpere

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I know CCA gives that call to PU but frankly I think U1 or U3 has a better look because of not being straightlined.  Couldn't even tell for sure from the replay whather it was caught or trapped -- there was a lot of dirt but I didn't see the ball bounce.

basejester

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This feels like a call that's difficult to fix retroactively, because the players have to react to that call.  The defense should have a shot at a double play either way.  

 

I can't really tell if the ball was caught or trapped, even with the replay.  The pitcher's technique implies a trap to me.

Wesley

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So trying to learn here, is the over-ruling call on a catch/no catch a pre-game discussion? Or was it a spontaneous accident?

 

What are the calls that can be immediately over-ruled that are discussed in pregame?  Off the top of my head:

HBP

Foul off the batter

D3K

Others?

 

As an amateur, low level, not-on-TV umpire, I'm thinking even with a pre-game, unless I am 100% sure of what I saw, I'm going to let the original call stand.

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So trying to learn here, is the over-ruling call on a catch/no catch a pre-game discussion? Or was it a spontaneous accident?

 

What are the calls that can be immediately over-ruled that are discussed in pregame?  Off the top of my head:

HBP

Foul off the batter

D3K

Others?

 

As an amateur, low level, not-on-TV umpire, I'm thinking even with a pre-game, unless I am 100% sure of what I saw, I'm going to let the original call stand.

There could be some differences between NF, Collegiate, OBR, and other organizations and what is taught for automatically helping out right on the spot without being asked versus waiting to be asked. Hopefully the guys in each group can respond and help you out.

 

Speaking to the last 17 words. Do not go with the preponderance of the evidence nor beyond a reasonable doubt, which is used in the judicial system depending on the court of law (civil, criminal) you are in. Use the percentage of "110% sure" when "speaking" of what was seen, otherwise let the original call stand IMHO.

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Haid D' Salaami

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I know CCA gives that call to PU but frankly I think U1 or U3 has a better look because of not being straightlined.  Couldn't even tell for sure from the replay whather it was caught or trapped -- there was a lot of dirt but I didn't see the ball bounce.

I agree with almost everything you post.. But I think there is no way U1 or U3 can get this.. they are farther back, and this is right in front of the PU.

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SWMBO just called me and said Gerry Davis and his U1 had a double call on a line drive to F1 at Colorado.  Mattingly EJ.  Anyone see it?  What happened?

Mattingly was ejected by first base umpire Brian Knight after plate umpire Gerry Davis ruled that Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke didn't catch a low line drive hit by Yorvit Torrealba. Greinke threw out Torrealba at first and Nolan Arenado advanced to second.

 

 

You will have to wait for Thunder to post the video.

 

No, no, no, no, no .........a million times no .........

 

People please ...it's not difficult ....

Yes, I love to post the videos but it's very tough for me over the weekends ....

 

www.mlb.com/video ....then do a search re: the topic ..... come on folks, I know you can do it too! :D

JaxRolo

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SWMBO just called me and said Gerry Davis and his U1 had a double call on a line drive to F1 at Colorado.  Mattingly EJ.  Anyone see it?  What happened?

Mattingly was ejected by first base umpire Brian Knight after plate umpire Gerry Davis ruled that Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke didn't catch a low line drive hit by Yorvit Torrealba. Greinke threw out Torrealba at first and Nolan Arenado advanced to second.

 

 

You will have to wait for Thunder to post the video.

 

No, no, no, no, no .........a million times no .........

 

People please ...it's not difficult ....

Yes, I love to post the videos but it's very tough for me over the weekends ....

 

www.mlb.com/video ....then do a search re: the topic ..... come on folks, I know you can do it too! :D

 

But Jeff you are the video King! If we post a video you will get mad at us! :wave:  :notworthy:  :hi5:

Thunderheads

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SWMBO just called me and said Gerry Davis and his U1 had a double call on a line drive to F1 at Colorado.  Mattingly EJ.  Anyone see it?  What happened?

Mattingly was ejected by first base umpire Brian Knight after plate umpire Gerry Davis ruled that Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke didn't catch a low line drive hit by Yorvit Torrealba. Greinke threw out Torrealba at first and Nolan Arenado advanced to second.

 

 

You will have to wait for Thunder to post the video.

 

No, no, no, no, no .........a million times no .........

 

People please ...it's not difficult ....

Yes, I love to post the videos but it's very tough for me over the weekends ....

 

www.mlb.com/video ....then do a search re: the topic ..... come on folks, I know you can do it too! :D

 

But Jeff you are the video King! If we post a video you will get mad at us! :wave:  :notworthy:  :hi5:

 

No way Rolando!! :D I know you're kidding, but honestly, ...no way....that way I can just click and watch and respond like you guys do when I post :givebeer:

Wesley

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Thanks for the video gents...  I'm on devil's island and blessed to get UE.  You tube and MLB.com only get me "denied: digital sports, media"  :no:

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