Missed base question...

[conbo61]

Runner on 1st, less than 2 out.  Batter grounds to short and throws high to first - ball sails out of play.  BR avoids leaping first baseman and takes off for 2nd MISSING 1st base.  R1 proceeds to 3B.

 

DC notices missed base and appeals the miss.  BU calls BR out for the missed base.

 

The question - Where do you place R1?

 

Since the BR play had no bearing on R1's advancement, I am leaving him at 3rd.

 

Is this correct?

[jmpnjmy]

Yes, since the SS threw the ball out of play, it's two bases from TOP.  3rd base

[BRUMP]

Any ball thrown into DBT on the first play from the infielder is gonna be 2 bases for all from TOP. He stays at 3rd

[UmpJM]

Yes, the R1 stays at 3B.

 

BRUMP, ALMOST any ball thrown into DBT on the first play from the infielder is gonna be 2 bases for all from TOP. There is a (rare) exception where it's 2 bases, TOT.

 

JM

[BalkHawk]

and the rare exception would be...

[Guest]

When all runners incl. the batter-runner have already reached 1B when the ball is thrown.

 

Ex: R2, 2 out, GB to any infielder, who boots it, allowing the BR to reach 1B safely and uncontested. However, R2 makes a wide turn at 3B, and they attempt to throw behind him, except it ends up OOP. Still the first play by an infielder, but since the BR has already reached 1B, you award from TOT. R3 scores, BR to 3B.

[Thunderheads]

When the batter-runner has already reached 1B when the ball is thrown.

 

Ex: R2, 2 out, GB to any infielder, who boots it, allowing the BR to reach 1B safely and uncontested. However, R2 makes a wide turn at 3B, and they attempt to throw behind him, except it ends up OOP. Still the first play by an infielder, but since the BR has already reached 1B, you award from TOT. R3 scores, BR to 3B.

[BRUMP]

Yes, the R1 stays at 3B.

BRUMP, ALMOST any ball thrown into DBT on the first play from the infielder is gonna be 2 bases for all from TOP. There is a (rare) exception where it's 2 bases, TOT.

JM

Forgot about this exception. It's hen the BR reaches 1b before the ball is thrown.

On edit--- didn't see ump24's response

[Jocko]

Bingo

[basejester]

Runner on 1st, less than 2 out.  Batter grounds to short and throws high to first - ball sails out of play. BR avoids leaping first baseman and takes off for 2nd MISSING 1st base. R1 proceeds to 3B.

DC notices missed base and appeals the miss. BU calls BR out for the missed base.

HTBT, but this sounds like to me like this could be obstruction.

I know this is a tangent.

[grayhawk]

Runner on 1st, less than 2 out.  Batter grounds to short and throws high to first - ball sails out of play. BR avoids leaping first baseman and takes off for 2nd MISSING 1st base. R1 proceeds to 3B.

DC notices missed base and appeals the miss. BU calls BR out for the missed base.

HTBT, but this sounds like to me like this could be obstruction.

I know this is a tangent.

 

The way the OP is written, I wouldn't have obstruction.  He was leaping to catch the thrown ball.  However, let's say he lands and then starts chasing the ball and then gets in the way of the runner, obstruction would be warranted.

[Jimurray]

When the batter-runner has already reached 1B when the ball is thrown.

 

Ex: R2, 2 out, GB to any infielder, who boots it, allowing the BR to reach 1B safely and uncontested. However, R2 makes a wide turn at 3B, and they attempt to throw behind him, except it ends up OOP. Still the first play by an infielder, but since the BR has already reached 1B, you award from TOT. R3 scores, BR to 3B.

Batter-Runner and all base runners must advance 1 base at time of play to award 2 bases TOT.