2 Strikes on 1 pitch

[JaxRolo]

I was made aware this past Wednesday at a rules clinic that you can actually call 2 strikes on 1 pitch on a certain situation.

Has Any one on here ever call that? :shakehead:

[Rich Ives]

I was made aware this past Wednesday at a rules clinic that you can actually call 2 strikes on 1 pitch on a certain situation.

Has Any one on here ever call that?

Only in FED though.

[jnazz]

Only thing that's coming to mind is the situation where the batter will not enter the box and the PU calls time and awards a strike. Therefore, after the next pitch you could have 2 strikes with only one pitch. This probably is not the situation you are talking about though. Give us a hint.......

[JaxRolo]

Only thing that's coming to mind is the situation where the batter will not enter the box and the PU calls time and awards a strike. Therefore, after the next pitch you could have 2 strikes with only one pitch. This probably is not the situation you are talking about though. Give us a hint.......

I believe you nailed it.

I don't remember them telling us to call time first. ( I have to look at my notes) But I think they told us to tell the pitcher to pitch then call a strike and award the second strike for not stepping in.

[Guest]

Only thing that's coming to mind is the situation where the batter will not enter the box and the PU calls time and awards a strike. Therefore, after the next pitch you could have 2 strikes with only one pitch. This probably is not the situation you are talking about though. Give us a hint.......

Did just that this past season!

It's now possible with the (2008, I believe) OBR rule change that does not require a pitcher to deliver the ball for a declared strike.

Interested to see what FED has going here.

[amarillo]

So in FED pitcher in the middle of his delivery and the batter steps out ,It is a strike for leaving the box and then if the pitcher continues and delivers home you call the pitch a strike as well making two strikes on one pitch? What if the pitch is a ball??

[JaxRolo]

So in FED pitcher in the middle of his delivery and the batter steps out ,It is a strike for leaving the box and then if the pitcher continues and delivers home you call the pitch a strike as well making two strikes on one pitch? What if the pitch is a ball??

Not for leaving the box but for not stepping into the the box and bat. You call it a strike no matter what.And Give the extra Strike.

[grayhawk]

So in FED pitcher in the middle of his delivery and the batter steps out ,It is a strike for leaving the box and then if the pitcher continues and delivers home you call the pitch a strike as well making two strikes on one pitch? What if the pitch is a ball??

Not for leaving the box but for not stepping into the the box and bat. You call it a strike no matter what.And Give the extra Strike.

7-3-1 Penalty: For failure of the batter to be ready within 20 seconds after the ball has been returned to the pitcher, the umpire shall call a strike. If the batter leaves the batter's box, delays the game, and none of the above exceptions apply, the plate umpire shall charge a strike to the batter. The pitcher need not pitch, and the ball remains live.

So if the batter steps out with both feet, without being granted time by the umpire, and the umpire judges that the batter delays the game, he may issue a strike. If the pitcher also delivers the pitch, another strike shall be called no matter the location of the pitch.

[JaxRolo]

So in FED pitcher in the middle of his delivery and the batter steps out ,It is a strike for leaving the box and then if the pitcher continues and delivers home you call the pitch a strike as well making two strikes on one pitch? What if the pitch is a ball??

Not for leaving the box but for not stepping into the the box and bat. You call it a strike no matter what.And Give the extra Strike.

7-3-1 Penalty: For failure of the batter to be ready within 20 seconds after the ball has been returned to the pitcher, the umpire shall call a strike. If the batter leaves the batter's box, delays the game, and none of the above exceptions apply, the plate umpire shall charge a strike to the batter. The pitcher need not pitch, and the ball remains live.

So if the batter steps out with both feet, without being granted time by the umpire, and the umpire judges that the batter delays the game, he may issue a strike. If the pitcher also delivers the pitch, another strike shall be called no matter the location of the pitch.

There you have it. Good job! 

[yawetag]

So in FED pitcher in the middle of his delivery and the batter steps out ,It is a strike for leaving the box and then if the pitcher continues and delivers home you call the pitch a strike as well making two strikes on one pitch? What if the pitch is a ball??

Unless the ball's thrown over the backstop, it's a strike. :)

[Rich Ives]

Only thing that's coming to mind is the situation where the batter will not enter the box and the PU calls time and awards a strike. Therefore, after the next pitch you could have 2 strikes with only one pitch. This probably is not the situation you are talking about though. Give us a hint.......

Did just that this past season!

It's now possible with the (2008, I believe) OBR rule change that does not require a pitcher to deliver the ball for a declared strike.

Interested to see what FED has going here.

Two strikes on one pitch are NOT possible under OBR.

[Guest]

Only thing that's coming to mind is the situation where the batter will not enter the box and the PU calls time and awards a strike. Therefore, after the next pitch you could have 2 strikes with only one pitch. This probably is not the situation you are talking about though. Give us a hint.......

Did just that this past season!

It's now possible with the (2008, I believe) OBR rule change that does not require a pitcher to deliver the ball for a declared strike.

Interested to see what FED has going here.

Two strikes on one pitch are NOT possible under OBR.

Technically speaking, yes it is; as I said it happened to me.

But I realize that there's a massive difference between what FED has going on and the OBR situation.

I was being facetious with my post.

[Rich Ives]

Only thing that's coming to mind is the situation where the batter will not enter the box and the PU calls time and awards a strike. Therefore, after the next pitch you could have 2 strikes with only one pitch. This probably is not the situation you are talking about though. Give us a hint.......

Did just that this past season!

It's now possible with the (2008, I believe) OBR rule change that does not require a pitcher to deliver the ball for a declared strike.

Interested to see what FED has going here.

Two strikes on one pitch are NOT possible under OBR.

Technically speaking, yes it is; as I said it happened to me.

But I realize that there's a massive difference between what FED has going on and the OBR situation.

I was being facetious with my post.

It's two separate "plays". In FED you can get the two strikes on one "play".

[Jimurray]

So in FED pitcher in the middle of his delivery and the batter steps out ,It is a strike for leaving the box and then if the pitcher continues and delivers home you call the pitch a strike as well making two strikes on one pitch? What if the pitch is a ball??

Not for leaving the box but for not stepping into the the box and bat. You call it a strike no matter what.And Give the extra Strike.

7-3-1 Penalty: For failure of the batter to be ready within 20 seconds after the ball has been returned to the pitcher, the umpire shall call a strike. If the batter leaves the batter's box, delays the game, and none of the above exceptions apply, the plate umpire shall charge a strike to the batter. The pitcher need not pitch, and the ball remains live.

So if the batter steps out with both feet, without being granted time by the umpire, and the umpire judges that the batter delays the game, he may issue a strike. If the pitcher also delivers the pitch, another strike shall be called no matter the location of the pitch.

You don't get 2 strikes on one pitch in 7-3-1. The "So ..." statement is Grayhawk's erroneous conclusion. Edited to add: The penalty strike referenced in 6-4-d-1 is from 7-3-1 so on furthor reflection Grayhawk is correct.

You get 2 strikes under 6-4-d-1. Situation b where the batter steps out with both feet and does not get time and the pitcher delivers a pitch. You get a penalty strike and an automatic strike on the pitch.

Most chapters I'm aware of encourage not seeing the second foot go out and just call 1 strike on the pitch. You will get enough flak on 1 strike when it's nowhere near the strike zone.

[mstaylor]

He didn't say it wasn't two plays, just that it was one pitch.

[Rich Ives]

He didn't say it wasn't two plays, just that it was one pitch.

By rule, 6.02(d) only applies to the pofessional minor leagues, so in basic OBR it really isn't because you have to step out, have the umpire order you in, refuse, and only then get the second strike. In FED it's automatic. Tain't the same.

[mstaylor]

Nobody said it wasn't different, it is very different. But you know me, I like stirring the pot. :)

[PeteBooth]

I was made aware this past Wednesday at a rules clinic that you can actually call 2 strikes on 1 pitch on a certain situation.

Has Any one on here ever call that?

Here is an example of 2 strikes on one pitch.

Count is 3-1

Pitch is delivered and B1 thinks it's a ball. He drops his bat immediately and heads for first without giving the umpire a chance to call the pitch.

Under the old FED rule before they added the caveat

AND DELAYS THE GAME

this was an automatic one strike penalty. If the 3-1 pitch was called a strike by the PU for strike 2. We would have strike 3 on the batter leaving the box without any of the provisions listed in FED rule 7 prevalent and yes I have called this because it was a point of emphasis during our association meetings and also was conveyed to the coaches during the annual coaches meeting.

Under the new rule which has the DELAYS THE GAME caveat, the PU could still rule a penalty strike if he felt that B1 left the box and delayed the game.

The FED does not want batters behaving like the Yankee and BOSOX hitters. It is a speed-up rule so that the game does not drag out any more then need be.

Pete Booth

[yawetag]

The FED does not want batters behaving like MLB hitters. It is a speed-up rule so that the game does not drag out any more then need be.

Fixed it for you.

[1dumbquestion]

The FED does not want batters behaving like dirty Yankees. It is a speed-up rule so that the game does not drag out any more then need be.

Fixed it for you.

there, fixed it for you yawetag

[Rich Ives]

The FED does not want batters behaving like BOSUX. It is a speed-up rule so that the game does not drag out any more then need be.

Fixed it for you.

there, fixed it for you yawetag

People keep fixing it incorrectly