Great INT call!!!

[Thunderheads]

Mark Carlson on this one .......very nice!!

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12549103

[txump81]

Good call. I don't see ANY argument here. That is a textbook out of the running lane INT call.

One question though, should Carlson have gone so far up the 1B line? I was under the impression that you should only go about halfway. Not downing the guy as he showed great hustle, just want to do it right if ever evaluated.

[Mr Umpire]

Good call. I don't see ANY argument here. That is a textbook out of the running lane INT call.

One question though, should Carlson have gone so far up the 1B line? I was under the impression that you should only go about halfway. Not downing the guy as he showed great hustle, just want to do it right if ever evaluated.

Only supposed to go the 45 foot mark, which is about where the running lane begins. But, most fields don't have a running lane so a good estimate works and halfway would be a good indication of where.

[Astrosdawg07]

Carlson went to the 45 ft line, just continued walking after he made his call.

[Thunderheads]

I just realized that Carlson EJ was probably based on Cito saying something about his call at home plate with Gardner .... it seems Cito was walking a way, said something else as he walked away...hand motioned towards home, and that's when Carlson sends him :shrug:

[dumbdumb]

The only 2 steps that were on the line were at 1.42 of the second shot with the left foot first and then the right, then he moved back to the left over into the field again rather than continue to the right just to try and cause the interference and hope to get away with it. He initially went a little right, to stay out of the way of the pitcher making some kind of play on him, and then when he realized he was by the pitcher, he steps back into the field to intentional try and get in the way of the throw rather than move more to the right into the running lane.

This was a pretty cut and dry call for the young guys on this forum to see, although as you can also see, you get ejections even when you are right. There have been tougher ones like this that guys get tossed on, but you never know when they might want to go, regardless of whether the call is right or not. You will hear the old, "you'll never work our game again", and variations on this, but that does not mean you cower and ignore this call.

The biggest thing for the young guys is being aware of this type of play every time that a ball is topped out in front of the plate like this, and not to just come out in front of the plate and down the line expecting only a tag, no tag situation, or just going brain dead and watching like a fan. There can also be interference with the throw as there was here and running more than 3 feet from a direct line to avoid the tag.

Edited September 29, 2010 by dumbdumb

[yawetag]

One question though, should Carlson have gone so far up the 1B line? I was under the impression that you should only go about halfway. Not downing the guy as he showed great hustle, just want to do it right if ever evaluated.

It looks like he's somewhat stopped at the 45' line to watch the play, then comes up the line to make (and sell) the call.

I was trained that when you have to make a close or controversial call, you should make it while you're getting closer to the play. This way, when the coach realizes you're making a call, you're much closer than you were when the play occurred. I'm guessing Carlson's doing the same.

Edit: I don't mean to watch the call while moving, but to watch the call, then move closer as you're calling it.

Edited September 30, 2010 by yawetag

[txump81]

Got it. Good advice. I will have to remember and try that. Watch at the halfway and as you make the call move closer. Perception is everything.

[Umpire in Chief]

Excellent example. Good call. And an example of why we don't stay behind the plate, but trail the BR up the line.

[JaxRolo]

Good call. I don't see ANY argument here. That is a textbook out of the running lane INT call.

One question though, should Carlson have gone so far up the 1B line? I was under the impression that you should only go about halfway. Not downing the guy as he showed great hustle, just want to do it right if ever evaluated.

I see nothing wrong. Great hustle. Stopped very briefly to see the play then continued walking.

Excellent!

[Kevin Finnerty]

That was identical to the play that turned the 1969 World Series in the Mets' favor. The runner even wears the same number as J.C. Martin's.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Here it is!

That's Shag Crawford busting it to the 20-foot mark Look at Lou DiMuro all set at his 90 degree angle.

You gotta love "The Google."

[Kevin Finnerty]

All right, this is the coolest: This youTube segment has the game-winning non-call by Shag, with Lindsey Nelson and Curt Gowdy doing the call, along with an interview of Tom Seaver, and if you stick with it, you get a studio interview show with Sandy and Mickey discussing the play, and a next-day analysis by Nelson and Commissioner Kuhn, with Joe D standing at his side.

Game 4, 1969 World Series

[Thunderheads]

All right, this is the coolest: This youTube segment has the game-winning non-call by Shag, with Lindsey Nelson and Curt Gowdy doing the call, along with an interview of Tom Seaver, and if you stick with it, you get a studio interview show with Sandy and Mickey discussing the play, and a next-day analysis by Nelson and Commissioner Kuhn, with Joe D standing at his side.

Game 4, 1969 World Series

HOLY CRAP...talk about nostalgia!!! :clap:

[Kevin Finnerty]

My first baseball idol was Casey Stengel. So, when his beloved Mets rose to the top, I was all over it. I was even allowed to stay home from school to watch the World Series because "Mr. Stengel's" old team was playing in it.

So, when I saw that clip you posted, it immediately evoked recollections of the 1969 World Series and the unforgettable play that turned Game 4.