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Correct, and agree .....but we have to admit, it'll take a lot of work to get a good angle on this slide
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Right, ... but typically you're not hanging onto that play that long to see most of that stuff ......
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Yep, yep .. I know I know ...... I was looking at this over the weekend on my phone, (small screen) and I was like, WOW is that picky, but now that I've seen it on my PC screen and was able to stop it, I can see it clearly now. I will still say, violation or not, ... this is much more difficult to grab in 2 man
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We're talking a HS game now, correct?
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let's just say ... half in the safe zone, half in the gray zone?
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I don't disagree, see my response to maven .......
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It's not necessarily that's it's NOT a violation, especially now that I have a better view of the play. But, BU in B ...in a 2 man system can get this, turning away to get the play at first?? Maybe? That's a long focus on exactly where R1 is sliding to catch before turning away. And PU will have an even more difficult time.
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Relooking at this video in slow motion and from the college rule ...I do see much better here where R1 was and why it was called. I'm still not grabbing this on a HS field because 1, ... not sure either PU or base ump would see this, and 2. the way the HS school rule is written, I'd still say he's ok here. PLUS ... it'd be a really SH*#ty end of the stick! ******** ON EDIT ************* I'm wrong. It should be grabbed IF YOU CAN SEE IT ... (in 2 man it may be tough)
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can someone post the college diagram?
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I never recall seeing a diagram for FPSR in HS? 🤔 I believe you, I just don't recall
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So, ...he slides into the portion of the bag that's "right of center" ...that's still a direct line as the base is what ... 15" square, correct? (Not an argument, good discussion, as I too do not see this a violation in HS)
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I get it, I do. And ... BY THE BOOK, letter of the law, yes, CHI was INT, ....but .... there really wasn't any hinderance since F6 camped under the pop up for 3 minutes Good discussion here!
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Nope. But if you can get out of a SH*#-storm by waiting a split-second longer ... why not. Did you read Wolfeman's post? In the CHI situation,... if you have this in a high-school game, ...its WAY easier to explain why you didn't have INT than if you would have called it.
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Remember, ... IFF doesn't have to be called by the umpires for it NOT to be in effect
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there isn't ... INT is a judgement call. That's where the 'hold just a second on the call' is coming in. Pause, read, react,...right? Oh, and I know you know this, but .... It never requires contact, either.
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True, and remember .... you're not calling IFF "immediately" either ...right? There's an extra beat to make sure all paremeters are met
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What Wolfie is saying, ... I think ...... at the HS level, it's just a split second hold on your call (in your head you have it, 'that's interference') ... watch F6, if he's struggling, CALL IT .... if he starts to 'camp' like the CHI example, let it go. Feasible? Probably not, but ...I think that's where Keith was going here.
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Supposedly, MLB said that the call on the field was correct and that INT is a judgement call but there could have been discretion used .... SUPPOSEDLY
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I know that ...I've already said that I agree with the call, ...it was correct
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Yes, INT is immediate dead I'm not saying wait 5 minutes, ...just an extra beat. REMEMBER, ... it's judgement. YES, the Chicago play was INT, but was F6 really "interfered with" in the grand scheme of things? I know it's not that simple, but
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Yes. This is important, I think. The context of what's going on during the play. YES, by rule, and definition, the Chicago INT call was correct, but ... like you said, it didn't effect the play or the actual attempt at the ball. INT is judgement, and w/ IFF, ... there needs to be a little extra moment of waiting until that call is made. IMHO. YMMV 😉
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Umpire Associations/Scheduling Games in Arizona
Thunderheads replied to tcasterlin's topic in High School
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Guys, ...... it's "ask the umpire" ....... let's just 'answer' here
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Umpire Equitment Bags with Room for Hockey Style Mask
Thunderheads replied to MarsOmega's topic in Umpire Equipment
Have you searched the 'equipment forum' yet? There are a TON of equipment bag threads loaded with information
