R1 touches third, heads to the dugout

[Richvee]

We’ve talked about it. The thread usually ends with “We’re never gonna see this anyway” 

Well, here it is. 
For those without FB. 
Second inning. R1. HR R1 rounds third and heads to the dugout?! 
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1CrbvydUwC/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[Velho]

 

 

 

[jimurrayalterego]

1 hour ago, Richvee said:

We’ve talked about it. The thread usually ends with “We’re never gonna see this anyway” 

Well, here it is. 
For those without FB. 
Second inning. R1. HR R1 rounds third and heads to the dugout?! 
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1CrbvydUwC/?mibextid=wwXIfr

B-R out for passing. R1 scores absent an appeal which did not look like it happened. Don't think abandonment would apply here to R1. What happened after the clip? It looks like 2 runs scored and nobody complained.

[Richvee]

30 minutes ago, jimurrayalterego said:

What happened after the clip? It looks like 2 runs scored and nobody complained.

Yes. From the clip they go right to the next batter and a pitch. No appeals…. No conference…. It’s like nobody noticed. 
(we won’t even talk about U1 slashing, PU calling the HR. (Didn’t  look like a ball down the line at all). 

[MadMax]

8 hours ago, Richvee said:

It’s like nobody noticed. 
(we won’t even talk about U1 slashing, PU calling the HR. (Didn’t  look like a ball down the line at all).

... And it's a 3-man crew?? 

... And there's a kid out-of-uniform (green T-shirt and shorts) prominently amongst the congratulatory Smash Group?? 

I can see why PU "took it" it went over the fence between the LFFP and F7 running that way. However, U1 wouldn't / shouldn't be slashing in. The rotation should have been PU continues down the 3BL to 3B, judging F/F (Fair) and HR. Stay at 3B for both R1 and BR. U1 would / should then watch touch at 1B by BR and "ROTATE!" down to Home to replace PU and watch touches of Home by R1 ... who... dis... a... pearred... 

 

 

[Velho]

11 hours ago, jimurrayalterego said:

Don't think abandonment would apply here to R1.

Until he entered the dugout or DBT, right? How long would that time period be (he has to go DBT eventually)?

[grayhawk]

3 hours ago, MadMax said:

... And it's a 3-man crew?? 

... And there's a kid out-of-uniform (green T-shirt and shorts) prominently amongst the congratulatory Smash Group?? 

I can see why PU "took it" it went over the fence between the LFFP and F7 running that way. However, U1 wouldn't / shouldn't be slashing in. The rotation should have been PU continues down the 3BL to 3B, judging F/F (Fair) and HR. Stay at 3B for both R1 and BR. U1 would / should then watch touch at 1B by BR and "ROTATE!" down to Home to replace PU and watch touches of Home by R1 ... who... dis... a... pearred... 

 

Looks like a typical playoff crew that's working their first 3 umpire game of the year.

[MadMax]

2 hours ago, Velho said:

Until he entered the dugout or DBT, right? How long would that time period be (he has to go DBT eventually)?

Now, this poses an interesting question. 🤔

Because a HR is a dead-ball event, there is no "time clock running" on how expediently a Runner must run the bases; it simply states he must run and (presumably) touch the bases in order. Additionally, a Runner can be substituted for, and can assume / resume the Runner's circuit of the bases. The Runner does not have to run/touch the bases prior to be subbed out (yes, of course, the Substitute now has to run/touch the bases, in order, from the point of substitution).

If we call an Out for Passing, then we are calling out BR (at point / time / instance of passing), and disallowing the/his run scored... yes? I can see you all nodding, yes... okay... However, if/when we make that call, it's likely that R1 magically reappears and resumes going to Home plate and touching it. 
On the other hand, if we still allow BR to complete his circuit, and score, that means we're not calling an Out on the BR for passing... which means that either we have R1 out via some other means, or we "observe but do not yet rule" on R1's failure to touch HP (and legally score). So, we have to wait for an appeal. 

Which is it?

 

PS: PU did himself absolutely no favors, not only by not rotating to 3B (like he's prescribed and supposed to), but by turning his back on R1's location. R1 is his responsibility. If you watch the video, he observes from 90 feet away as R1 touches 3B, but turns his back at the critical moment when R1 disappears, and doesn't complete his circuit to HP. 
How do you score a run that never actually scored?  

 

[jimurrayalterego]

1 hour ago, grayhawk said:

Looks like a typical playoff crew that's working their first 3 umpire game of the year.

yep, goat rope mechanics

[Velho]

54 minutes ago, MadMax said:

Which is it?

 

[Velho]

33 minutes ago, jimurrayalterego said:

1 hour ago, grayhawk said:

Looks like a typical playoff crew that's working their first 3 umpire game of the year.

yep, goat rope mechanics

and why, for our folks that have gotten post season assignments, we work 4 umpire games (what they will be doing) as much as possible throughout the year.