Manny interference?

[Richvee]

14 minutes ago, The Man in Blue said:

Not apples and oranges, but a bunch of fruit salad that umpires seem hellbent on blending into a tasteless, bland puree to dump on the floor.

That would be a smoothie. They're' not tasteless. They're really good. 

Seriously though...I think we have a ruled difference here. OBR and the manual say this is OK in so many words. 

I still contend 8-4-2a is written with the intent of calling this illegal. 

On 10/10/2024 at 1:21 PM, Richvee said:

“runs more than three feet away from a direct line between the bases to avoid being tagged OR to hinder a fielder while the runner is advancing or returning to a base” 

There's no other reason to add this in the rule about running three out of the path if it wasn't intended to deal with a runner doing what Manny did. Note this wording is not found in OBR. 

I'm still looking for feedback if anyone who thinks this is legal in OBR is with me thinking this is illegal in FED

[The Man in Blue]

Smoothies need other ingredients!    

[dumbdumb]

here is the referenced play from 2 years ago.

and lindsay recent youtube analysis

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[beerguy55]

On 10/11/2024 at 5:52 PM, jimurrayalterego said:

People have mentioned needing more intent such as waving hands.

I think that should be viewed as guidance, to an example of what would constitute INT, but not an exhaustive list that implicitly defines what isn't INT.  

Breaking the wrists or crossing the plane of the plate might be guidance you can use to help you determine if a batter swung, but neither are they definitive markers of a swing, nor is their absence a definitive indicator of a non-swing.

Likewise, if you really need an overt act of swinging arms and looking at the ball, you're failing to use common sense.