After a walk, when can time be called? MLB level.

[Amgolfer]

After a walk, when can time be called?  MLB level.

[MadMax]

8 hours ago, SeeingEyeDog said:

Can I also add to the mix...OBR has no dead ball appeal. Did plate put it back into play before they ran their appeal?

If you watch the X video (above, supplied @Velho), a/the ball is indeed made Live prior to the Appeal being conducted. 

So let’s set the stage… at the close of the previous play, it’s now R2-R3. Sanchez is the announced (next) Batter. The Cubs elect to “show him 4”. Time is called (it may have been in the previous play; no difference), and PU indicates “4 (balls)”, inducing an IBB (a Dead-ball event). The Marlins immediately opt to substitute Pache as a PR. Sanchez drops his gear and heads towards 1B, but doesn’t complete the 90’ to 1B, instead coming back and returning to the dugout. Pache zips on out there, and assumes his position on 1B. This alerts a very shrewd Craig Counsell. 

You/we can read Counsell’s lips rather well as he’s inquiring with the PU. “I want to appeal that…” (paraphrased). The PU completes his lineup card notations recording the substitution. You can see Counsell directing the pitcher to conduct the appeal, and you can see a bench coach / staff member pantomiming the pitcher to fully come set (Runners on base) before stepping off to conduct the appeal. 

Then we cut back to a view of the battery, and the (next) Batter is in the box, the Catcher is in (his) the box, and the PU does the “Pro-ball start the clock” signal. We have to remember, in Pro (uppercase P; I think lowercase p does this too, now, due to the Action Clock) baseball, as soon as the Pitcher is engaged to the rubber with a baseball, that baseball is Live, and we (participants) simply await PU’s signal to start the clock; the Pitcher is, with that ball being (en)Live(nd), is under Balk (Ed. to add: and Step-Off Counts!) restrictions. 

But yes, the appeal was indeed a (proper) Live ball appeal. 

Edited August 27, 2024 by MadMax
Edited to add: Step-Off Count / Limit is also instituted once the ball is Live.

[The Man in Blue]

Did we ever get any more on this incident?

It was brought back to my mind this week when I was U3* in a game where a kid took a solid pitch to the ankle.  After a few minutes of "trainer time" at the plate, the coach provided the PU with the sub who would run for batter . . and the PU made the batter go touch first before he allowed the substitution.  The kid had to hobble down there with assistance (don't open that can of worms).

After the game, I asked my PU if he watched the Cubs/Marlins game this week.  He said no, and we had a long discussion about why he made an injured player hobble down to first base.  I asked what he would have done if the kid took the pitch in the face and had to be stretchered out to an ambulance.  He said he hadn't thought about it that way.

*Yep, worked a freebie to work 3-ump.  I was scheduled for Team A vs. Team B at 4:30.  We had four umpires show up for a 4:30 game because Team A screwed up and didn't tell the assignor it was actually a 7:00 game on a shared field (Team C and Team D were playing at 4:30).  I wasn't willing to stay for a 7:00, so one of the 4:30 guys was willing to take it for me.  Since he was taking the plate and it was 100+ degrees for the 4:30, I jumped on and worked 3-ump to make it easy on him.  Luckily, the game lasted less than an hour.  Yes, I have my assignor trying to get me a check from Team A since they screwed up and I showed up.  The AD from Team C is a good associate of mine, so he was going to see about trying to get me a check for his game.  I'm not holding him to it though.  (He pays me very well come volleyball season.)

[beerguy55]

On 9/1/2024 at 10:49 PM, The Man in Blue said:

I asked what he would have done if the kid took the pitch in the face and had to be stretchered out to an ambulance.  He said he hadn't thought about it that way.

You think things are obvious until you realize they're only obvious to you...and that common sense is uncommon.

"Yes, your I know your player has died, but you need to drag him to first before you can sub him out".

[Velho]

1 hour ago, beerguy55 said:

"Yes, your I know your player has died, but you need to drag him to first before you can sub him out".

But only another runner can do it (without passing - and I'll be watching). But right now, the bases are empty so "He's Out".

[The Man in Blue]

On 9/3/2024 at 12:00 PM, beerguy55 said:

You think things are obvious until you realize they're only obvious to you...and that common sense is uncommon.

"Yes, your I know your player has died, but you need to drag him to first before you can sub him out".

 

 

I teach English at an inner-city high school.  Common sense is a myth.