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OBR.....Three runners cross home plate. The second runner fails to touch the plate. If after completion of the play, the defense makes an appeal that the runner missed the plate, do they have to specify which runner it was?  If the answer is yes, then if the defense appeals the wrong runner missing the plate, are they allowed to make another appeal naming a different runner as the one missing the plate? (Assume appeals are made properly). I know a second appeal on the SAME runner at the same base is not allowed but I can’t find anything on the above situation, which leads me to believe it is allowed. Thanks 

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Yes, they must tell the umpire (unless it I obvious, which in this situation it is almost certainly not) which runner they are appealing. Appealing one runner does not remove your ability to appeal another. In theory, you could appeal that every runner missed every base every play. But that's stupid, and you will NOT be making any friends doing so. Eventually, umpires would start pulling out nuclear options.

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Can’t speak for OBR, but in other codes the general rule for umpires is not to let coaches go fishing for an appeal.  Multiple appeals are allowable, but we aren’t playing a guessing game.  

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From the 2016 BRD (section 12, pp. 24-25):

OBR:  The defense may appeal each runner at each base. (5.09c)

Play:  Bases loaded, 2 outs. B1 triples. The defense appeals that R1 missed second. The umpire denies the appeal. Next the defense announces it will appeal that BR missed second. That appeal is also denied. The defense then announces it will appeal that R1 missed third. Ruling:  The appeals are all legal. The defense could make eight appeals on this play:  R1, R2, R3 at home; R1 and R2 at third; R1 and BR at second; and BR at first.

As far as I can tell, the NCAA is the only code that spells out in its rule book that the defense must indicate which runner is being appealed where more than one runner might have committed the infraction (2019 rule 8-6b-6).

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8 hours ago, Senor Azul said:

From the 2016 BRD (section 12, pp. 24-25):

OBR:  The defense may appeal each runner at each base. (5.09c)

Play:  Bases loaded, 2 outs. B1 triples. The defense appeals that R1 missed second. The umpire denies the appeal. Next the defense announces it will appeal that BR missed second. That appeal is also denied. The defense then announces it will appeal that R1 missed third. Ruling:  The appeals are all legal. The defense could make eight appeals on this play:  R1, R2, R3 at home; R1 and R2 at third; R1 and BR at second; and BR at first.

As far as I can tell, the NCAA is the only code that spells out in its rule book that the defense must indicate which runner is being appealed where more than one runner might have committed the infraction (2019 rule 8-6b-6).

I'm not sure what you mean in the last paragraph. In the BRD quote you posted, the defense made a separate appeal for each runner. Doesn't that imply that you must be specific when appealing in OBR as well?

EDIT: Ah, I'm being dumb. You were talking about I the rule book, as opposed to an interpretation.

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12 hours ago, calablue said:

OBR.....Three runners cross home plate. The second runner fails to touch the plate. If after completion of the play, the defense makes an appeal that the runner missed the plate, do they have to specify which runner it was?  If the answer is yes, then if the defense appeals the wrong runner missing the plate, are they allowed to make another appeal naming a different runner as the one missing the plate? (Assume appeals are made properly). I know a second appeal on the SAME runner at the same base is not allowed but I can’t find anything on the above situation, which leads me to believe it is allowed. Thanks 

You could have up to 10 appeals on a bases-loaded grand slam.

And, any appeal must be "obvious."  Sometimes, it's "obvious" by its very nature; other times, the defense needs to do something (and a verbal indication is probably the most common way) to make it so.


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