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Senor Azul. I apologize if I’ve insulted you. That was not my intent. I am simply want him to find out if that particular sentence was included in the rule that you quoted, or if you deduced it by using a combination of rules that I have not been able to find. Thank you

Thank you. Just to clarify, is the statement “the batter returns to bat counting the foul ball” a quote from the milbum or are those your words?

OBR. I see under the penalty for runner interference on an infield fly rule where the ball is caught in foul territory that the runner is out and the batter returns to the plate. My question is what happens to the batters count? Is it a foul ball/strike or a No Pitch. OBR only please. Thanks. I’ve never had this actually happen in a game I’ve worked.

And again I ask, how do you do that without stopping play?

OK, misunderstanding on my part. I thought you were protecting a runner after he had slid into a base. However, how do you protect a batter without calling time? If you put your hand out to keep the pitcher from pitching, that’s the same as calling time. So how do you stop the pitcher from pitching?

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Got it. Thank you. An out in my games also. I understand the difference between my scenario and tagging with the glove alone. I was just looking for something to back it up. AND trying to understand the last portion of the OBR 2.0 definition of TAG. The portion that follows the semicolon (;). Seems very confusing.

OBR. But I imagine that this will be the same in all codes. : Is it a legal tag if A defender holds the ball in one hand, puts the ball against the glove, and then touches the runner with the glove while the ball is against it? It seems like this might be what the last sentence of the definition of Tag is saying.

Not necessarily true, sometimes in OBR,“Balk” doesn’t makes the ball dead because the balk gets ignored due to the batter and all runners advancing.

How can you protect him without calling time?

I’m sure I wasn’t clear in the OP but my real question here is: does he become bound by the pitching rules as soon as he intentionally steps on the rubber?

Ok,so as soon as he steps on the rubber intentionally, which was the case in the OP. Got it. Thanks Maven

Actually, no I didn’t. LOLActually, no I didn’t. LOL

I don’t really remember what he was doing. The ball was in his right hand maybe rubbing his crotch with his glove , looking up, down, around in general, not taking signs and not making any type movements that indicated he was ready to come to the set position. Not sure how it matters. He wasn’t set, and he wasn’t doing his stretch yet.

I don’t know why I wasn’t seeing it. I guess I better go check the possible side effects on my medications LOL

LMAO!!!!! Thanks! No can you tell me how I could have done that? I actually was able to do it but deleted post because I wanted to “quote” beerguy55 and then post. Wouldn’t work after I used quote button. Thanks

Calling time is a must in this situation so that everyone can bow their heads and say a prayer for the deceased ball. Can’t seem to find a way to insert an emoji,so just picture me hitting myself in the head with a hammer now LOL

At what point or what action has to take place for the pitching restrictions to be in effect?

I’m not sure I understand. He has stepped onto the rubber intentionally and is standing there fiddling around. What do you mean by “ Before F1 has properly engage the rubber. “. How does the pitcher properly engage the rubber? No sarcasm here, I’m trying to understand at what point this would be a balk and when it would not.

Just to clarify, he does this prior to taking the position that most pitchers assume to take their signs, not during the transition from sign taking to set position.

Not sure I agree with the wording of your first statement. I don’t think that just stepping on the rubber constitutes the start of the “stretch”. As far as calling a balk, not gonna happen unless I can explain why it is one.

But then again, I guess it is a balk because if he intentionally dropped it and caught it before it hit the ground,it would be balk.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing but what bothers me is that it is does not slip or fall...it is tossed back and forth. If he’s come set I’ve got a balk for sure just not positive on this sitch.

OBR......R1, RH F1 steps on the rubber, in what is eventually going to be the set position, and is fiddling around then snaps his shoulders toward 1st base, back to fiddling around then repeats shoulder snap. Is it a balk as soon as he snaps shoulders around the first time?

OBR.......With a runner on base, is it a balk if the pitcher steps on the rubber and tosses the ball back and forth from hand to glove to hand to glove to hand to glove....repeatedly......before he’s come set? He does this between every pitch.