Illegal runner

[Guest Kersh]

A batter flies out and on the play the runner on third tags up and scores on a close play. The batter who flew out remains on first base unnoticed by the umpire or the defense. The next batter triples and the "illegal runner" scores from first. The defense now notices that the runner that scored was the guy who flew out, and appeals the play. 

Any penalty? Does the run come off the board?

[Replacematt]

I'm not going to ask how 10+ people missed this. 

Assuming that his existence didn't change how the play happened, the run simply comes off the board as it was never legally scored. If it did, now there's a big can of worms that I'm going to think about and wait for the inevitable discussion. 

[maven]

8 hours ago, Guest Kersh said:

Any penalty?

Yes. I'm not hiring those umpires again.

[noumpere]

9 hours ago, Guest Kersh said:

A batter flies out and on the play the runner on third tags up and scores on a close play. The batter who flew out remains on first base unnoticed by the umpire or the defense. The next batter triples and the "illegal runner" scores from first. The defense now notices that the runner that scored was the guy who flew out, and appeals the play. 

Any penalty? Does the run come off the board?

Accidentally, or on purpose (was the offense trying to cheat)?

 

IF the former, see Matt's answer.  If the latter, see Matt's answer and add an ejection or two.

[Lou B]

He's out and, as such, he cannot score.  The run does not count.

[beerguy55]

I really hope this is one of those hypotheticals people come up with when they're into their fourth pitcher of beer after a slow pitch game.

Because here's another possible outcome...The umpire (assuming only one) doesn't acknowledge(or remember)  that out.

A batter later, defense says "hey wait a minute, that guy who scored was already out"...solo working ump says, "no he wasn't"...looks at his clicker...still shows nobody out.  "But he flied out"..."No he didn't...I have nobody out"

[noumpere]

1 minute ago, beerguy55 said:

I really hope this is one of those hypotheticals people come up with when they're into their fourth pitcher of beer after a slow pitch game.

 

A more charitable explanation is that the batted ball was caught near the ground, such that the batter and/or the coach might reasonably think (or hope) that the ball was not caught.  And, the newer umpire made no call (or a quiet one), and so the runner stayed on the base waiting for verification that s/he was out.  And, the newer umpire never gave such an indication, so ...

[Kersh]

Nope, happened in our Men's league softball game. There was so much activity on the play that no one noticed the guy slip from the first base coach's box onto first base. no one really noticed until there was the play at the plate on him.

Not a beer drinker's league either, most everyone, or at least a large number from each team has played organized baseball after high school too.

[noumpere]

20 hours ago, Kersh said:

Nope, happened in our Men's league softball game. There was so much activity on the play that no one noticed the guy slip from the first base coach's box onto first base. no one really noticed until there was the play at the plate on him.

Not a beer drinker's league either, most everyone, or at least a large number from each team has played organized baseball after high school too.

If he really "slipped" (I'm reading intent to decieve into this) onto first base, and there's no doubt the ball was caught, I'm getting an ejection and figuring the rest out using the equivalent of 9.01(c)