Sticky situation

[maven]

This situation occurred in a JUCO game under NCAA rules.

But I'm posting it here to generate discussion on handling it under FED. Thoughts?

I recommend not looking at any of the subsequent videos in the linked twitter feed!

[scrounge]

First, very likely obstruction on F2, and tossing F2 and the runner is fine by me if one wishes to make that call (and probably should), but I don't think I would classify this as a fight for purposes of a rule 3 everyone leaving their position ruling. If a punch had been thrown of course, no one's left to play, cause they all got booted.

[Catch18]

Fed: 3-3-1-p. “Leave their positions or bench area during a fight or physical confrontation. PENALTY: The umpire shall eject the offender from the game.”

Was it a fight...meh. Physical confrontation...yep. They didn’t come out to exchange cookie recipes. 🧐

(The s*** of it would be if it’s gm 1 of a DH....”uh, you all were bad boys in the 1st one, but we’ll just move on to the next contest...lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)


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[maven]

1 hour ago, scrounge said:

First, very likely obstruction on F2, and tossing F2 and the runner is fine by me if one wishes to make that call (and probably should), but I don't think I would classify this as a fight for purposes of a rule 3 everyone leaving their position ruling. If a punch had been thrown of course, no one's left to play, cause they all got booted.

I agree with OBS.

Another option after the benches clear: suspend the game, file a report (including video, if available), and let the state sort it out.

[ricka56]

HS F2 obstruction. 

I will give PU the benefit of the doubt that he thought that F2 was the aggressor and needed to be "moved" away, but I don't think the man-handling would fly in a HS game (dunno if that's acceptable at the NCAA level). I liked that the coaches got in there to separate players (instead of insight them). 

I have something little here (no ejections), but a stern warning to coaches to keep a lid on this..."lets not turn something little into something big". 

[BT_Blue]

In terms of the actual video.

Looks like F2 wasn't happy about the play. But didn't get heated until, what looked like, R3 popping off to him.

As for how I would handle it if it was a HS game? I would have to follow the rules as written. Anyone that left the bench or their position would be ejected.

[Jglopez7]

A statement was released by the asst coach. Stating when the runner slid home the catcher thought he missed home so he tagged him again. Runner was upset when tagged a second time and made a comment which started the incident. Initially the umpires ejected F2 and the runner scoring. But the tourney director wanted action to be taken as per the rule for JUCO/NAIA. 

[lawump]

On 5/18/2018 at 9:03 PM, maven said:

Another option after the benches clear: suspend the game, file a report (including video, if available), and let the state sort it out.

This.