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Over Running 1st base on base on balls (NFHS)


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NFHS Rules:  3-1 count, next pitch is a ball, batter jogs down to 1st base, after he touches 1st base he continues past it a few steps but DOES NOT make an attempt to go to 2nd base.  Ball is thrown over to 1st baseman and he tags the runner who has passed 1st base a few steps but returning to the base.  In NFHS is this an out.  In OBR it is not an out.  In 2018 edition rule 8-2-7 it doesn't give a definitive answer

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From the taso.org website:  Rule 8-2-7 – The verbiage “A player who is awarded first base on a base on ball does not have this right” has been deleted from the rule. The rule now reads: “A batter-runner who reaches first base safely and then overruns or overslides may immediately return without liability of being put out provided he does not attempt or feint an advance to second.” Impact to umpires: Little to none. Now any runner reaching first, even on ball four or an intentional walk, may overrun or overslide without risk of being put out provided he simply moves to return to first with no attempt or feint of an advance to second.

And here are the two new 2018 FED case book plays to go along with the rule change:

8.2.7 SITUATION A:  The leadoff hitter has a 3-2 count. There is a check-swing situation and the umpire calls ball four. The base umpire upholds the plate umpire’s decision and B1 overruns first base. In (a), the defense tags the batter/runner returning to first base. In (b), the defense tags the batter/runner after the batter/runner attempts to go to second base before returning to first base. RULING:  In (a), the batter/runner is safe. In (b), the batter/runner is out.

8.2.7 SITUATION B:  The leadoff hitter has a 3-2 count. There is a check-swing situation and the umpire calls ball four. The base umpire reverses the call on appeal and calls strike three. B1 overruns first base. In (a), the defense tags the batter/runner returning to first base. In (b), the defense tags the batter/runner after the batter/runner attempts to go to second base before returning to first base. RULING:  In (a), the batter/runner is safe. In (b), the batter/runner is out.

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....Looks like the 2018 FED powers that be forgot this rule is also mentioned in 8-4-2(h) 1.

1. If a batter-runner safely touches first base and then overslides or overruns it, except on a base on balls, he may immediately return to first base without liability of being tagged out, provided he did not attempt to run or feint to second.....

ooops!

 

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Why would the B1 be safe in situation B (a)?

Unless the pitch was uncaught (which surely should have been specified if it's part of the situation), s/he's out on strikes, no matter where s/he runs.

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6 minutes ago, CJK said:

Why would the B1 be safe in situation B (a)?

Unless the pitch was uncaught (which surely should have been specified if it's part of the situation), s/he's out on strikes, no matter where s/he runs.

It should have been specified but it wasn't so we will have to assume it.  

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