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Alright everyone, what am I missing on the following question?

A coach, player, substitute, attendant or other bench personnel shall not:
 
  • a.  Use any object in his possession in the coach's box other than a stopwatch, rules book (hard copy), scorebook.
 
  • b.  Be outside the designated dugout (bench) or bullpen area if not a batter, runner, on-deck batter, in the coach's box or one of the nine players on defense.
 
  • c.  Charge an umpire

 

          d.   A and B

 

 

 

Section 3 Bench and Field Conduct contains all of these if I am reading it right.  

 

ART. 1 .... A coach, player, substitute, attendant or other bench personnel shall not

 

h. use of any object in his possession in the coach’s box other than a stopwatch, rule book (hard copy), scorebook;

 

i. be outside the designated dugout (bench) or bullpen area if not a batter, runner, on-deck
batter, in the coach’s box or one of the nine players on defense;

 

j. charge an umpire

 

So is answer choice D a misprint and should be all of the above, or am I just flat out missing something here.

 

Thanks

Posted

As you've observed, A, B, and C are all true. That makes them all equally good responses.

D is better, as it includes 2 true responses.

No available response is better than D.

Choose D.

Posted
4 hours ago, maven said:

As you've observed, A, B, and C are all true. That makes them all equally good responses.

D is better, as it includes 2 true responses.

No available response is better than D.

Choose D.

FED logic at it's best :wacko:

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10 hours ago, Richvee said:

FED logic at it's best :wacko:

Worse: it's standardized test logic.

Years ago (when not umpiring) I made a few bucks teaching an LSAT prep course and would sometimes explain why the test company referred to the right answer as the "credited response." They did so to deflect lawsuits from test takers who discovered "errors" in the answers: when Law Services simply gave "credit" for a given "response," they had no legal liability to defend it in court as "right," "true," or otherwise "correct." Such law suits were sometimes prompted by answers that were the "best available," without being the best conceivable — or even very good — answers. And sometimes their inferiority was intentional (it's a difficult test, partly for this reason).

I would sometimes follow that explanation with, "Still want to go to law school?" :)

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16 minutes ago, maven said:

Worse: it's standardized test logic.

Years ago (when not umpiring) I made a few bucks teaching an LSAT prep course and would sometimes explain why the test company referred to the right answer as the "credited response." They did so to deflect lawsuits from test takers who discovered "errors" in the answers: when Law Services simply gave "credit" for a given "response," they had no legal liability to defend it in court as "right," "true," or otherwise "correct." Such law suits were sometimes prompted by answers that were the "best available," without being the best conceivable — or even very good — answers. And sometimes their inferiority was intentional (it's a difficult test, partly for this reason).

I would sometimes follow that explanation with, "Still want to go to law school?" :)

^^^^^^^^^^ that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read :rolleyes: 

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18 hours ago, tankmjg24 said:

Alright everyone, what am I missing on the following question?

A coach, player, substitute, attendant or other bench personnel shall not:
 
  • a.  Use any object in his possession in the coach's box other than a stopwatch, rules book (hard copy), scorebook.
 
  • b.  Be outside the designated dugout (bench) or bullpen area if not a batter, runner, on-deck batter, in the coach's box or one of the nine players on defense.
 
  • c.  Charge an umpire

 

          d.   A and B

 

 

 

Section 3 Bench and Field Conduct contains all of these if I am reading it right.  

 

ART. 1 .... A coach, player, substitute, attendant or other bench personnel shall not

 

h. use of any object in his possession in the coach’s box other than a stopwatch, rule book (hard copy), scorebook;

 

i. be outside the designated dugout (bench) or bullpen area if not a batter, runner, on-deck
batter, in the coach’s box or one of the nine players on defense;

 

j. charge an umpire

 

So is answer choice D a misprint and should be all of the above, or am I just flat out missing something here.

 

Thanks

Is C actually a rule? The question is on rules. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Rich Ives said:

Is C actually a rule? The question is on rules. 

Dude, he just quoted it: 3-3-1j, "j. charge an umpire." All 3 options are direct quotes from 3-3-1.

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2 minutes ago, maven said:

Dude, he just quoted it: 3-3-1j, "j. charge an umpire." All 3 options are direct quotes from 3-3-1.

2 things....

1) Rich wasn't aware which is strange because he KNOWS the rules ....

2)  @maven used the word "dude" LOL! :D 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Rich Ives said:

Is C actually a rule? The question is on rules. 

Unbelievable.  UN-F***-ING BELIEVABLE.  There ought to be a law against know-it-alls on this forum who've never umpired a game.  Seriously.

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Posted

don't read into FED tests too deeply, or you will mess yourself up more than the test does.

Read down through all of the answers and pick which ones are correct - look for an answer that has all of the above or the correct choices you found.

If you find 2 answers that could be correct, and don't find an option of choosing those 2 or all of the above - look for a word change from the rule in the 2 answers you like.

These seem to work well for me.

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