Runner Hit By Batted Ball

[Guest Tom]

Babe Ruth game, R1 with 1 out.  Batter his a grounder to second and R1 is hit by the batted ball before F4 has a chance to make a play.  Dead ball, R1 is out and batter ends up on first base.  In the umps opinion the contact with the runner was unintentional, however the batter for whatever reason had a slow jump out of the box, so by ruling the ball dead at impact the ump took away a taylor made double play.  Is there any situation where the ump could rule the batter out in this scenario as well?

[grayhawk]

2 hours ago, Guest Tom said:

Babe Ruth game, R1 with 1 out.  Batter his a grounder to second and R1 is hit by the batted ball before F4 has a chance to make a play.  Dead ball, R1 is out and batter ends up on first base.  In the umps opinion the contact with the runner was unintentional, however the batter for whatever reason had a slow jump out of the box, so by ruling the ball dead at impact the ump took away a taylor made double play.  Is there any situation where the ump could rule the batter out in this scenario as well?

The umpire didn't take anything away, he merely enforced the rule as written.  The ball is dead the instant it hit the runner in this situation - there is simply no way around that.  Since it wasn't judged to be intentional, R1 is out and the BR is awarded first.  Them's the breaks.

[noumpere]

4 minutes ago, Guest Tom said:

Babe Ruth game, R1 with 1 out.  Batter his a grounder to second and R1 is hit by the batted ball before F4 has a chance to make a play.  Dead ball, R1 is out and batter ends up on first base.  In the umps opinion the contact with the runner was unintentional, however the batter for whatever reason had a slow jump out of the box, so by ruling the ball dead at impact the ump took away a taylor made double play.  Is there any situation where the ump could rule the batter out in this scenario as well?

Under OBR, a DP is ruled only when the INT is "willful and with the obvious intent of preventing a double play" (or some words to that effect in the rule).

Under FED, you *could* get two outs here.

 

(I assume Taylor is your second baseman's name.  )

[Rich Ives]

3 hours ago, noumpere said:

Under OBR, a DP is ruled only when the INT is "willful and with the obvious intent of preventing a double play" (or some words to that effect in the rule).

Under FED, you *could* get two outs here.

 

Babe Ruth uses OBR so . . . 

[Richvee]

8 hours ago, Guest Tom said:

 so by ruling the ball dead at impact the ump took away a taylor made double play.