Batter-runner hit by batted ball

[jjskitours]

Batter-runner hits a pop up about 50 up the 1st base line. The F3 races in and dives in an attempt to make the catch, but fails to get a glove on it as it hits fair and makes a 80 degree turn and hits the batter-runner just inside the foul line and goes into foul territory. If it doesn't hit the B-R, it goes foul, so no other fielder would have had a play on the ball. What's the ruling.

[udbrky]

It hit him in Fair territory before it passed a fielder it sounds like. So it's a dead ball, he's out. Runners return to the last base they occupied.

[noumpere]

8 hours ago, udbrky said:

It hit him in Fair territory before it passed a fielder it sounds like. So it's a dead ball, he's out. Runners return to the last base they occupied.

Occupied at TOP.  Probably what you meant; just trying to clarify for the younger or more sensitive viewers.

[dookiexman]

Sounds like it could have passed F3 in the OP. He dove and missed the catch.

[ALStripes17]

Occupied at TOP.  Probably what you meant; just trying to clarify for the younger or more sensitive viewers.

In FED, it's technically TOI.

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[noumpere]

9 minutes ago, ALStripes17 said:

In FED, it's technically TOI.

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Reference, please.  I think "being hit by a batted ball" is a different rule / clause  from "interfering with a fielder", but I don't have my books handy to check.

[ALStripes17]

Reference, please.  I think "being hit by a batted ball" is a different rule / clause  from "interfering with a fielder", but I don't have my books handy to check.

8-2-9 ... in the event of interference, a runner returns to the base he had legally reached at the time of the interference. If the interference does not cause the batter to be out and any other runner cannot return to the base last legally occupied at the time of the interference, he is advanced to the next base.

My addition: the only exception to this rule is found under FPSR, which requires all runners return to TOP base. FED is different from OBR and NCAA in that they don't have a rule addressing interference by a BR before reaching first base

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[ALStripes17]

Reference, please.  I think "being hit by a batted ball" is a different rule / clause  from "interfering with a fielder", but I don't have my books handy to check.

Actually, after some further research, there is a buried time of pitch exception in 8-3-5( b ) but it seems to be only for dead ball awards, like a ball going out of play. (Would contradict the interference cite from 8-2-9)

If any pitch (batted or unbatted) is followed by a dead ball before the pitcher is in position for the next pitch and before there is any throw by the fielding team, any award is from the base occupied at the time of the pitch.

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[noumpere]

33 minutes ago, ALStripes17 said:

 

 

8-2-9 ... in the event of interference, a runner returns to the base he had legally reached at the time of the interference. If the interference does not cause the batter to be out and any other runner cannot return to the base last legally occupied at the time of the interference, he is advanced to the next base.

 

I agree with what the reference says, but I don't think the OP is "INT."  Interference is something like 8-4-2b; being hit by a batted ball is something like 8-4-2g or k

[ALStripes17]

I agree with what the reference says, but I don't think the OP is "INT."  Interference is something like 8-4-2b; being hit by a batted ball is something like 8-4-2g or k

Interference is 2-21-1. And a runner or BR being hit by a batted ball would fall under that definition.

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[Rich Ives]

Sounds like there's a good chance it passed a fielder.

[noumpere]

56 minutes ago, ALStripes17 said:

Interference is 2-21-1. And a runner or BR being hit by a batted ball would fall under that definition.

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What does the "Dead Ball Table" say for the two separate infractions?  (And, yes, I know it can sometimes be wrong -- at least at one time; I forget whether they've corrected it and the specifics of what is /was wrong.)

[ALStripes17]

What does the "Dead Ball Table" say for the two separate infractions?  (And, yes, I know it can sometimes be wrong -- at least at one time; I forget whether they've corrected it and the specifics of what is /was wrong.)

#13 fair ball touches runner before touches an infielder blah blah...

Award or Penalty: #13 Hit runner is out. Batter awarded first base and credited with single. Others return to base occupied at time of interference unless forced by BR.

Nothing that addresses BR being hit by batted ball.

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[noumpere]

Thank you.  I stand corrected.