Toronto - Texas Catcher thrown ball hits bat - Video added

[noumpere]

I guess that brings me to my next question...let's say that they take the run off the board, put him back on 3B.  Texas properly protests and they end up losing the game.  What happens next?  Assume post-season, not regular season for this scenario.

 

Protest denied.  In our (MLB) judgment, the runner would NOT have scored even if time had not been called.

[Richvee]

Protest denied.  In our (MLB) judgment, the runner would NOT have scored even if time had not been called.

That would be one hard sell given the position of the runner, the fieldes and the ball at the time of the "time" call.

[ricka56]

And that might be where they hang their hat for this play. But that rule is intended for judgment calls: fair/foul, catch/no catch, safe/out. Typically it is for judgment calls, but I see no rule that it is limited to that. 6.02(c) is about reversing an incorrect "decision". No one can dispute that PU incorrectly decided to call TIME.. It should not really apply to a situation where everyone stops playing because time has been called: .... They didn't stop playing because TIME was called, they stopped because there wasn't any play available to them.

What about an incorrect interference call on a batted ball ? The ball is dead on the incorrect interference call. Would you send a R3 back to 3B after umpires decide that the call was incorrect, even though there was no play to be made on R3 (as in this play). This play was an interference call (either the intentional or weak type).

They were obligated to fix the mistake 6.02(c). When the wrong call involve a dead ball, it gets messy. Sometimes dead ball screw-ups are impossible to fix. This wasn't one of those. 

This situation is more like an inadvertent whistle in football, and should be handled as such. ... No cheap scores.

No one wants to see a cheap score, but no one wants to see a cheap bailout of the defense either.

Put everyone back and do it over.

Don't know if the B is going to agree to have the F2 bounce the return throw off his knuckles again. 

 

[noumpere]

That would be one hard sell given the position of the runner, the fieldes and the ball at the time of the "time" call.

It's still judgment (no matter how poor the judgment), and can't be protested (well, it can but it won't go anywhere)

[Richvee]

Interesting interview with Dale Scott. Apparently the "review" was in response to The Blue Jays protest. Not for runner placement, or anything else.

Dale Scott

[stkjock]

Thanks Rich. Seems like there could be more to that interview.  

[johnnyg08]

That makes sense.  Essentially they're ruling on the protest at that moment.  So they wouldn't have to replay the game from that point.  Makes perfect sense.  That's how protests are handled at our local level during tournament time.  With MLB using replay all of the time, this is likely how they handle all protests.  Figure it out from the moment of the protest. Replaying protested games, while extremely rare, is very expensive.  Why not eliminate that piece?