My Best Ejection Story

[BrianC14]

:agasp_:

constable,

i was wondering if you eject a batter for drawing lines on you the first time it happens?

what i usually do if a batter draws a line on me (and lets say the BR is a RHH) and draws a line halfway into the LHH batter's box showing me where he thought the pitch was. i polietly ask him for the bat, and draw a line halfway into the RHH batter's box, same distance from the plate as he drew his line in the other box. i give him that bat back and tell the BR "that's your stike zone now" (loud enough for the catcher to hear). then you pray the pitch is in between the lines you and the BR drew.

i learned the technique from a gentlemen who has done a CWS. he could not keep guys from drawing lines on him, even after warning and ejecting. so he tried something a bit stronger and now he teaches the technique at clinics. great man

frenchblue

I would suggest that you abandon this, erm.... "technique". There are just so many ways this is just plain wrong, not the least of which is that you've sunk to the level of the player who tried it.

A CWS umpire "teaches" this, you say? Sorry, I'm not buying that line. Sounds more like a war story.

Edited August 18, 2009 by BrianC14

[dawg-man]

I agree with Brian. If we sink to the level of everyone else just think of how bad the games will be. We are supposed to be better than that. You will learn in time what you can do and what you can not do. Take what Brian told you as constructive, it will help you in the long run.

[constable]

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=4572709

[HokieUmp]

i was wondering if you eject a batter for drawing lines on you the first time it happens?

I know you were asking constable, not me, but I'm 1-for-1 with the EJ for drawing lines thing.

I'd heard of batters doing it, and had a partner in Australia get a quick swipe on the inside from a batter. He ran the guy. But last year, I finally had one done to me. I didn't really stop to consider options; I instinctively went for my mask, removed it, and tossed the guy, almost in one fluid motion.

So, yeah, I'm all for EJ the first time.

Your technique doesn't suck - I'm not against the whole "oh, you like 'em out there? Okay, we'll call those, too!" scenario. But as has been mentioned, it's got to be at the right level. One, the batter needs to understand he should be bending over at this point, and two, F2 needs to be smart enough or aware enough to call for that next pitch outside. Otherwise, it won't work - either the batter will sit down b!tching to his teammates about how that last strike was WAY out, and not have learned a lesson, or he'll get something hittable because the catcher was too dumb to get the easy call.

I'm curious, though: you say the person that taught you this couldn't get people to stop drawing lines, even with warnings and EJs. I don't understand why - if it's not because his zone was bad (so much so that players didn't care they were up for ejection), then it seems that the players he had were just too dumb to live, even knowing what was coming. My thoughts: just keep ejecting 'em - they'll get tired of not playing that much, or serving suspensions, or paying fines. Eventually.

[constable]

I know you were asking constable, not me, but I'm 1-for-1 with the EJ for drawing lines thing.

I'd heard of batters doing it, and had a partner in Australia get a quick swipe on the inside from a batter. He ran the guy. But last year, I finally had one done to me. I didn't really stop to consider options; I instinctively went for my mask, removed it, and tossed the guy, almost in one fluid motion.

So, yeah, I'm all for EJ the first time.

Your technique doesn't suck - I'm not against the whole "oh, you like 'em out there? Okay, we'll call those, too!" scenario. But as has been mentioned, it's got to be at the right level. One, the batter needs to understand he should be bending over at this point, and two, F2 needs to be smart enough or aware enough to call for that next pitch outside. Otherwise, it won't work - either the batter will sit down b!tching to his teammates about how that last strike was WAY out, and not have learned a lesson, or he'll get something hittable because the catcher was too dumb to get the easy call.

I'm curious, though: you say the person that taught you this couldn't get people to stop drawing lines, even with warnings and EJs. I don't understand why - if it's not because his zone was bad (so much so that players didn't care they were up for ejection), then it seems that the players he had were just too dumb to live, even knowing what was coming. My thoughts: just keep ejecting 'em - they'll get tired of not playing that much, or serving suspensions, or paying fines. Eventually.

Amen- I had exactly the same thoughts. Eventually they'll run out of players!

[BT_Blue]

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=4572709

I was hoping that someone would repost this! Still my favorite parts are Wally Bell saying "DON'T" and Girardi RUNNING from the dugout to try and stop Damon. Then the minute he draws the line, Girardi slows down cause he knows whats coming and you can see his mind going "darn it, not fast enough".

As for drawing lines. I missed the only time that has happened to me... but that was almost 6 years ago. I saw two or three players do it this year (all of them were HS players playing summer Pony ball) and both time the player only got a warning.... if that!

[MCLEOD36]

That one is precious

[mstaylor]

I had one like that last year. Men's league and the R2 is mad at me and is doing the slow walk across the infield. He gets to the pitcher's mound, going to the first base side, and slings his helment at the third base line. The asst coach come out of the dugout in a loud slow NOOOOOOOO. Too late, gone.

[SanDiegoSteve]

It sounds like to me that you baited the last two umpire's into getting ejected. The reason that you picked up the rule book off the ground and quoted rules is beyond me. You were clearing showing them up, and if I was one of those coaches you would had to eject me as well.

You have to let those guys be the one's to get themselves ejected. You shouldn't be helping escalate matters.

It's up to the umpires to keep law and order on the field. If you have one that feels that he needs to show up coaches, then he needs to go find something else to do with his time. If you were in my association and they heard about what you did, you would have been fined a games pay and suspended for a month. Possibly the remainder of the baseball season.

By the way....an illegal pitch is a ball with no runners on the base. If there are runners on base when an illegal pitch occurs, then it is a balk.

I know I'm really, really late on this, but this is the first time I've read this thread, so pardon me here....

Whoever this person is, he is not an umpire, does not belong to any association, and has little knowledge of the rules or how to deal with coaches. He is, no doubt, just a rat masquerading as an umpire.

The clowns in the OP should have been ejected as soon as the rule book was produced.:hi5:

[critter]

I was hoping that someone would repost this! Still my favorite parts are Wally Bell saying "DON'T" and Girardi RUNNING from the dugout to try and stop Damon. Then the minute he draws the line, Girardi slows down cause he knows whats coming and you can see his mind going "darn it, not fast enough".

As for drawing lines. I missed the only time that has happened to me... but that was almost 6 years ago. I saw two or three players do it this year (all of them were HS players playing summer Pony ball) and both time the player only got a warning.... if that!

I cant stand the announcers "that's a big plate that's on the batter box

that a strike since the umpire called it strike.